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Hi, I have the universal M35 in my C34. Yea I'm happy with it. If I upgrade it will be to a max prop or similar.

Excellent!

Can I ask you what antifouling you're using? It looks like some kind of hard paint?  With the demise of VC17 it would be good to know what else works and is less maintenance.

Just saw this post, my CS is a 14X8

Thanks for this!

I'm about to order.  Are you happy with it?  I guess you have a similar engine etc?

Anyone have any references on where to buy OEM or good aftermarket ones?

Pbyrne, that is the standard prop.  Don't try that diameter and pitch with the Campbell Sailor or you will overload the engine.  The shape of the CS blade makes a considerable difference and the 14x8 is the recommended size for Mk II with M35.

Yes, just trying to confirm the standard out of the box prop for reference.

Just so I have a refence point, the C34 MKII came with a 15x9? 

https://www.catalinadirect.com/shop-by-boat/other-catalinas/engine/props-etc/propeller-3-blade-15-x-9c-310-c-320-c-34-c-36/

I have the Campbell Sailer RH14x8 fitted to mine, as recommended by West by North.  Beats the nasty Martec folder hands down.  Mainly as I can raise the idle to a sensible point and stop the vibration at low idle. Talk to West by North before ordering, get the straight scoop from them.  I think mine is slightly over propped as it won't get to 3000rpm.  However, that said, I think my diesel is 10 years old and that is probably contributing more to the lower performance of the engine than the prop. 

Yes, I'll call to put in the order.  How do you find the performance?  One thing I will say for the variprop is it never felt like it struggled to weather with chop.  Always plenty of power to punch through.

Then you got your answer!!!   

A thought

I thought so, but then the 14x7 comment came up! LOL

Pbyrne,

Out of curiosity, I looked up my CS dimensions.  It is a 13.750 x 7.  I am able to reach max RPM at full throttle (about 25 to 50 rpm shy) and cruise at 2400 to 2600 rpm at about 6.25kts and max at about 7.1 to 7.2kts at 3150 rpm.

Interesting.  That means what they quoted is over pitched at 14x8...?

I use Rottella T1 30W.
I suck oil out through the dipstick
Filter should only be hand tight
Coat new filter gasket with a bit oil before screwing it in.
Read manual on your engine for amount of oil. Generally it takes just over four quarts. Check dipstick while changing to make sure you don't overfill. "Been there done that" and had to suck a bit back out. A PIA if discovered after you have cleaned up and put away your pump.;-)

Dipstick it is! Noted on level. LOL  I know this isn't T1, but the local chandlery carries this.  What do you think?  https://www.marineoutfitters.ca/index.cfm?category=10025|10788&product=81159275&code=021400058750

I'm setting up to change the oil this year.  Previous years I simply ran out of time and had the local mechanic do it.

I'm picking up a Pela vacuum pump, I have filters, but need to get oil, and I would like to know if a tool is needed to remove or secure the filter.  I used to have a kind of massive socket that would fit over the filter on my motorcycle, but not sure that is the correct tool for the Universal.

Also, I believe it's 4 quarts of oil that is required.

So is the below correct:

Use oil removal pump on oil hose
Use oil dipstick hole to remove any remaining oil
Leave hose in small pan to get final oil out over time
Total should be 4 qts
Is a tool needed to remove filter (or just a strap?)
Should you fill the oil filter prior to installation (I think so)
What is the correct oil, and amount needed

pby : What does the manufacturer of the Campbell Prop recommend for a C34 with an M35B engine????

A thought

3 blade RH 14x8.

I have a 34 mk2 with the M35B engine with a campbell sailor prop.

Stamped on one side of the hub is"D14 RH P8".  On the other side is "S20707"

I have photos, but can't figure out how to attach them.

Craig

That is what is recommended by CS.  Do you find it over pitched?  Meaning, can you get to full RPM of 3000?

[Based on the above suggested prop size is 3 blade RH 14x8.]

Reply from west by north below in full.  Looks like a 3 blade RH 14x8, is the recommendation.  Matches what people have said they have here.

Now, as rmjohns mentions, he's not getting full RPM with 7.5 pitch, let alone 8.  Does anyone have any experience to add to rmjohns?


West by North <kelsey@westbynorth.com>
Mon, Aug 26, 4:12 PM (22 hours ago)
to me

Hi Peter,

Thank you for your interest in West by North Industries and the Campbell Sailer Propeller.

This recommendation assumes a Catalina 34 MKII on a Universal M-35B engine (35hp @ 3000 RPM max). Transmission is Hurth HBW-100 with a ratio of 1.79 to 1. Shaft diameter is 1.0 inch and rotation at the prop is RH. Please advise if different.

Based on the above suggested prop size is 3 blade RH 14x8.

The Campbell Sailer has cupped blades and a leading edge foil. This increases prop efficiency converting a larger percentage of available HP directly into thrust. As a result we often size smaller than other manufacturers for a given installation.

The Campbell Sailer offers the perfect balance between powering, maneuvering and low drag performance. It's the lowest drag fixed 3 blade on the market. Up to 35-40% less drag when compared to equivalent size units from other manufacturers. The Campbell prop is renown for how smooth it runs throughout the entire RPM range.

Pricing is CAD $985.00. Freight with Canada Post is (5-6 business days) is CAD $36.00. Ontario HST (13%) will apply. Manufacturing time is approximately 6-8 business days on order.

We accept e-Transfer or credit card via telephone. We can also send you a link to complete payment through PayPal. This is a convenient and secure method to complete credit card payment. PayPal account not required and no additional fees apply.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Smooth sailing,
Kelsey

West by North Industries
778-802-4202

Thanks guys.  I'm not trying to be difficult. I just thought there would be similarity in the props when engine is the same.

I've read the forum on CS, and it seemed there was some back and worth with CS to sort it out, which I'd like to avoid (short sailing season, and expensive haulouts), and I couldn't see how there would be a difference between my 34 / M35B powered boat and the next guy.

Part of my thinking is that considering the discussions about the prop pitch, armed with the knowledge on this forum, I would be better prepared to have the conversation with CS.

I recently bought a campbell sailor.  They run different pitches and diameters than stock so Ron's recommendations are not likely accurate for the CS prop.  The fellow that sells them has a rather long back log of data and can recommend the correct pitch and diameter for your boat.

AH.  What did you end up with seeing as you have one.