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''The Catalina 34 has had at least three different motors.  The
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''The Catalina 34 has had at least three different engines.  The
 
* M-25, a 3-cyl, 21 hp engine, was installed on the the early models.   
 
* M-25, a 3-cyl, 21 hp engine, was installed on the the early models.   
 
* M-25XP (3-cyl, 23 hp) became standard in 1988.  
 
* M-25XP (3-cyl, 23 hp) became standard in 1988.  
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All are produced under the Universal Motors brand (now Westerbeke Corporation).  Due to lack of available supplies, the factory occasionally installed a Yanmar engine (note: Yanmars are higher-compression engines, which do not require glow plugs). ''
 
All are produced under the Universal Motors brand (now Westerbeke Corporation).  Due to lack of available supplies, the factory occasionally installed a Yanmar engine (note: Yanmars are higher-compression engines, which do not require glow plugs). ''
  
== Operators, Parts, and Service Manuals ==
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== Operators, Parts, Service Manuals AND Factory Service Bulletins AND Transmision Manuals ==
[[Manuals|Enngine Manuals]]
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*[http://www.c34.org/wiki/index.php?title=Manuals Engine and Transmission Manuals and Universal Factory Service Bulletins] <br>
  
 
== General ==
 
== General ==
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== Cooling ==
 
== Cooling ==
*'''NEW 2/2019''' [[Flow directions in engine cooling hoses (both early and B-series engines)]] --<small>KWKloeber 2/2/2019</small><br>
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*[[ONE PROCEDURE TO FLUSH the ENGINE CLOSED COOLANT SYSTEM - from RC's (aka Mainesail aka Rod Collins aka Compass Marine)]] <small>-- </small>
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*[[Replacement part numbers for the engine coolant circulation pump on the M-25, M-25XP, M-25XPA, M-35, M-35A]] ''/ Note: This is NOT for the newer B-series engines''' --<small>KWKloeber 7/14/2019</small><br>
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*[[Flow directions in engine cooling hoses (both early and B-series engines)]] --<small>KWKloeber 2/2/2019</small>
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*[[Why do some of our engines have different Oberdorfer sea water pumps than others, and what about that cir-clip "holding on the impeller"? ]]  <small>-- KWKloeber 15 May 2015</small>
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The first part pertains more to C30's with M-25s/Oberdorfer pumps, than to M-25XPs -- but it's interesting background anyway....
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The second part pertains to all those with Ob pumps, and is subtitled "''Yes, you're right ...but we don't tell customers that''."
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<small>-- KWKloeber 15 May 2015</small>
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*Why SHERWOOD Raw Water Pumps leave a LOT to be desired:  See reply #7 here:  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8493.0.html
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Thanks to Ken for that one, I'm tired of repeating it. - Stu  5/25/2015
 
*[[Heat Exchanger Maintenance|Heat exchanger maintenance, including zinc change]]<br>
 
*[[Heat Exchanger Maintenance|Heat exchanger maintenance, including zinc change]]<br>
 
*[[Overheating Due to Heat Exchanger|Heat exchanger upgrade]] to 3" version to prevent overheating<br>
 
*[[Overheating Due to Heat Exchanger|Heat exchanger upgrade]] to 3" version to prevent overheating<br>
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* HEAT EXCHANGER SOURCES and Replacement Bracket and Exchanger with Pictures  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,6920.0.html
 
* HEAT EXCHANGER SOURCES and Replacement Bracket and Exchanger with Pictures  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,6920.0.html
 
* COOLANT PUMP PARTS RESOURCE  http://forums.catalina.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=169680
 
* COOLANT PUMP PARTS RESOURCE  http://forums.catalina.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=169680
 
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* FRESHWATER COOLANT PUMP Parts # and Sources  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8939.0.html
*FRESHWATER COOLANT PUMP Parts # and Sources  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8939.0.html http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,9461.msg77379.html#msg77379
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* [http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,9461.msg77379.html#msg77379 "B engines" FRESHWATER COOLANT PUMPs with 2-1/4" and 2-3/4" impellers] by Breakin Away
 
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* [https://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8939.msg77420.html#msg77420 "B engine" COOLANT PUMP INSTALLATION NOTES] from Breakin Away
 
* Rebuilding an Exhaust Riser (also from Dave and a C36 skipper [previously posted])  http://www.realitycheck.me/building-...aust-riser.htm
 
* Rebuilding an Exhaust Riser (also from Dave and a C36 skipper [previously posted])  http://www.realitycheck.me/building-...aust-riser.htm
 
*'''[[Why do some of our engines have different Oberdorfer sea water pumps than others, and what about that cir-clip "holding on the impeller"? ]]'''
 
The first part pertains more to C30's with M-25s/Oberdorfer pumps, than to M-25XPs -- but it's interesting background anyway....
 
The second part pertains to all those with Ob pumps, and is subtitled "''Yes, you're right ...but we don't tell customers that''."
 
--[[User:Kloebereng|KWKloeber]] 15 May 2015
 
 
*'''Why SHERWOOD Raw Water Pumps leave a LOT to be desired:  See reply #7 here:  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8493.0.html
 
Thanks to Ken for that one, I'm tired of repeating it. - Stu  5/25/2015
 
  
 
* '''Engine Thermostats'''
 
* '''Engine Thermostats'''
 
   '''M-25/XP/XPA; 35/A; early M-25XPB (to March 1998) use these 38mm diameter thermostats:'''
 
   '''M-25/XP/XPA; 35/A; early M-25XPB (to March 1998) use these 38mm diameter thermostats:'''
   160* F - Universal p/n 301358 or Kubota p/n 1E399-73010 (replaces 19203-73014, 19203-73013, 19203-73010.)
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   160*F - Universal p/n 301358 or Kubota p/n 1E399-73010 (replaces 19203-73014, 19203-73013, 19203-73010.)
   180* F - Kubota p/n 15531-73014 (replaces 15531-73013, 15531-73011.)
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   180*F - Kubota p/n 15531-73014 (replaces 15531-73013, 15531-73011.)
 
   38mm Gasket - Universal p/n or Kubota p/n 16851-73270 (replaces 15676-73270, 15531-73270, 15676-73272.)
 
   38mm Gasket - Universal p/n or Kubota p/n 16851-73270 (replaces 15676-73270, 15531-73270, 15676-73272.)
 
    
 
    
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   44mm Gasket - Universal p/n 298843 or Kubota p/n ?
 
   44mm Gasket - Universal p/n 298843 or Kubota p/n ?
 
    
 
    
  See '''Service Bulletin #107''', Kubota Tstats likely won’t have a bypass hole, so drill a 1/8” hole, or two, thru the inside edge  
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*<font color=red>''Recent update: ''</font color> THERMOSTAT BYPASS HOLE  See '''Service Bulletin #107''', Kubota Tstats likely won’t have a bypass hole, so drill a 1/8” hole, or two, thru the inside edge of its flange so that there is a constant coolant flow thru the exhaust manifold when the Tstat is closed.  
  of its flange so there is a constant coolant flow thru the exhaust manifold when the Tstat is closed.
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[[File:thermostat with bypass holes.jpg|100px|left|]] <<= Click to enlarge
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<br>
  
 
== Electrical ==
 
== Electrical ==
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*<font color=red>''See also: ''</font color> [[Electrical#Alternators_and_Battery_Chargers|Alternators and Battery Chargers]] <small>(takes you to another section)</small>
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*[http://c34.org/wiki/images/3/34/Gauge_Troubleshooting_Steps.pdf Cockpit Engine Panel Gauge Tech Reference / Troubleshooting Steps] --K Kloeber 11/3/2014
 
*[http://www.c34.org/wiki/index.php?title=M-25_Alternator_Mount_Conversion_Kit_%22B/M_256891%22 Alternator mount/bracket upgrade] <font color=red> ''Important safety upgrade for M25 (not XP) owners by Stu Jackson'' </font color><br>
 
*[http://www.c34.org/wiki/index.php?title=M-25_Alternator_Mount_Conversion_Kit_%22B/M_256891%22 Alternator mount/bracket upgrade] <font color=red> ''Important safety upgrade for M25 (not XP) owners by Stu Jackson'' </font color><br>
 
*[[Engine Harness Upgrade|Engine harness upgrade:]] A comprehensive overview by Gerry Douglas <font color=red> ''Important WARNING for M25 owners''</font color><br>
 
*[[Engine Harness Upgrade|Engine harness upgrade:]] A comprehensive overview by Gerry Douglas <font color=red> ''Important WARNING for M25 owners''</font color><br>
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*[[Tachometer Malfunction Q&A]]  
 
*[[Tachometer Malfunction Q&A]]  
 
[[Category:Engine]]<br>
 
[[Category:Engine]]<br>
*[http://c34.org/wiki/images/3/34/Gauge_Troubleshooting_Steps.pdf Cockpit Engine Panel Gauge Troubleshooting Steps] --K Kloeber 11/3/2014
 
 
*Thermostat (temp gauge) Sender Source  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,7985.0.html]]
 
*Thermostat (temp gauge) Sender Source  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,7985.0.html]]
 
*Engine cockpit panel wiring diagram from CD.com, thanks to Noah  http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/feature/73/z2644--z2855-instrument-panel-wiring-diagram.cfm
 
*Engine cockpit panel wiring diagram from CD.com, thanks to Noah  http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/feature/73/z2644--z2855-instrument-panel-wiring-diagram.cfm
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== Exhaust System ==
 
== Exhaust System ==
 
The hot exhaust gases are mixed with cooling water in the exhaust elbow and water muffler on their way to the exhaust outlet in the stern of the boat.
 
The hot exhaust gases are mixed with cooling water in the exhaust elbow and water muffler on their way to the exhaust outlet in the stern of the boat.
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*<font color=blue>'''''Newest''' ''</font color> [[C34 Exhaust with Water Cooled Riser]] From C-34 owner Bill Shreeves<br>
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*[[Repairing an AquaLift muffler (with pictures)]] From C-30 owner Mark Hamilton<br>
 
*[[Exhaust Pipe Replacement|Exhaust pipe replacement]]<br>
 
*[[Exhaust Pipe Replacement|Exhaust pipe replacement]]<br>
 
*[[Hump Hose Replacement|Hump hose replacement guidance]]<br>
 
*[[Hump Hose Replacement|Hump hose replacement guidance]]<br>
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* Rebuilding an Exhaust Riser (also from Dave and a C36 skipper [previously posted])  http://www.realitycheck.me/building-...aust-riser.htm
 
* Rebuilding an Exhaust Riser (also from Dave and a C36 skipper [previously posted])  http://www.realitycheck.me/building-...aust-riser.htm
 
*[[Muffler Replacement or Repair|Water-lift muffler: Repair or replace?]]<br>
 
*[[Muffler Replacement or Repair|Water-lift muffler: Repair or replace?]]<br>
*[[Repairing an AquaLift muffler (with pictures)]] From C-30 owner Mark Hamilton<br>
 
*[[C34 Exhaust with Water Cooled Riser]] From C-34 owner Bill Shreeves<br>
 
  
 
==Fuel==
 
==Fuel==
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*[http://www.c34.org/wiki/index.php?title=Manuals Universal Diesel Owner's, Parts, and Service Manuals]
 
*[http://www.c34.org/wiki/index.php?title=Manuals Universal Diesel Owner's, Parts, and Service Manuals]
  
*Kubota Filter Equivalents  http://www.orangetractortalks.com/2008/12/gray-market-kubota-oil-filter-part-numbers/<br>
 
 
'''[NOTE]''' The filter interchanges at the above OTT website can't necessarily be trusted; double-check if you use them.
 
For instance, OTT lists NAPA p/n 3389 for both fuel and lube application.
 
I brought this to OTT's attention and suggested they correct its list.  OTT asked ME to provide THEM
 
all the correct interchange numbers  nd they would revise the website.<br>  I don't THINK so.  :-)
 
<small>--[[User:Kloebereng|KWKloeber]] 21:33, 29 June 2014 (PDT)</small>
 
 
<br>
 
<br>
  
 
== Transmission ==
 
== Transmission ==
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*[[Transmission Replacement]]
 
*[[Engine Power Loss Diagnosis and Solution|Solving engine power loss:]] Working on the injection pump<br>
 
*[[Engine Power Loss Diagnosis and Solution|Solving engine power loss:]] Working on the injection pump<br>
 
*[[How to Check the Transmission Oil|Transmissions: Checking the oil]]<br>
 
*[[How to Check the Transmission Oil|Transmissions: Checking the oil]]<br>
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*Transmission Drain Plug Replacement for Crush Washer - thanks to Loren Beach  http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/entry.php?213-Hurth-17-mm-Drain-Plug-washer
 
*Transmission Drain Plug Replacement for Crush Washer - thanks to Loren Beach  http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/entry.php?213-Hurth-17-mm-Drain-Plug-washer
 
*[http://c34.org/wiki/images/4/47/Hurth_repair_manual_searchable.pdf  Hurth Detailed Searchable Parts Manual] <small>- KKloeber 2016-5-13</small>
 
*[http://c34.org/wiki/images/4/47/Hurth_repair_manual_searchable.pdf  Hurth Detailed Searchable Parts Manual] <small>- KKloeber 2016-5-13</small>
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*Transmission & Damper Plate Link (from the Forum)  https://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,10436.0.html
  
 
==Misc Projects==
 
==Misc Projects==
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*<font color=red>''Updated: ''</font color> *Options to Route Crankcase Breather Hose to Air Intake [http://c34.org/wiki/images/1/13/Example.pdf '''VIEW THE PDF''''' ] - K Kloeber May 2021
 
*[[Engine Cover Hinge|Engine compartment cover hinge]]<br>
 
*[[Engine Cover Hinge|Engine compartment cover hinge]]<br>
 
*[[Removing Engine Using Boom]]
 
*[[Removing Engine Using Boom]]
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* Removing Engine  Catalina 30 from Captain Dan  with photos - good ideas for re-bracing engine mounts, too  http://forums.catalina.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=168891
 
* Removing Engine  Catalina 30 from Captain Dan  with photos - good ideas for re-bracing engine mounts, too  http://forums.catalina.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=168891
  
*Options to Route Crankcase Breather Hose to Air Intake [http://c34.org/wiki/images/1/13/Example.pdf '''VIEW THE PDF''''' ] - K KLoeber May 2015
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* Remote Oil Filter Details from Maine Sail:  http://www.sailnet.com/forums/engines/230865-remote-oil-filter-kubota-diesel.html#post3224841
 
* Remote Oil Filter Details from Maine Sail:  http://www.sailnet.com/forums/engines/230865-remote-oil-filter-kubota-diesel.html#post3224841

Latest revision as of 20:25, 2 December 2024

The Catalina 34 has had at least three different engines. The

  • M-25, a 3-cyl, 21 hp engine, was installed on the the early models.
  • M-25XP (3-cyl, 23 hp) became standard in 1988.
  • M-30, a 4-cylinder producing 28hp, became an optional engine about the same time and is standard in the Mark II.

All are produced under the Universal Motors brand (now Westerbeke Corporation). Due to lack of available supplies, the factory occasionally installed a Yanmar engine (note: Yanmars are higher-compression engines, which do not require glow plugs).

Operators, Parts, Service Manuals AND Factory Service Bulletins AND Transmision Manuals

General

CRITICAL UPGRADES includes a lot of engine information: Critical Upgrades http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,5078.0.html

RESOURCES - good M25 engine information,from a C36 owner

Spares for a Long Cruise

http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,4590.0.html

Bleeding 101 http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,6377.0.html

Cooling

The first part pertains more to C30's with M-25s/Oberdorfer pumps, than to M-25XPs -- but it's interesting background anyway.... 
The second part pertains to all those with Ob pumps, and is subtitled "Yes, you're right ...but we don't tell customers that."
-- KWKloeber 15 May 2015
Thanks to Ken for that one, I'm tired of repeating it. - Stu  5/25/2015
  • Engine Thermostats
 M-25/XP/XPA; 35/A; early M-25XPB (to March 1998) use these 38mm diameter thermostats:
 160*F - Universal p/n 301358 or Kubota p/n 1E399-73010 (replaces 19203-73014, 19203-73013, 19203-73010.)
 180*F - Kubota p/n 15531-73014 (replaces 15531-73013, 15531-73011.)
 38mm Gasket - Universal p/n or Kubota p/n 16851-73270 (replaces 15676-73270, 15531-73270, 15676-73272.)
 
 Later M25-XPBs (after March 1998) 44mm 160* F thermostat
 Universal p/n 201001 or Kubota p/n 19434-73014 (replaces 19434-73010, 19434-73013)
 44mm Gasket - Universal p/n 298843 or Kubota p/n ?
 
  • Recent update: THERMOSTAT BYPASS HOLE See Service Bulletin #107, Kubota Tstats likely won’t have a bypass hole, so drill a 1/8” hole, or two, thru the inside edge of its flange so that there is a constant coolant flow thru the exhaust manifold when the Tstat is closed.
Thermostat with bypass holes.jpg

<<= Click to enlarge


Electrical

Exhaust System

The hot exhaust gases are mixed with cooling water in the exhaust elbow and water muffler on their way to the exhaust outlet in the stern of the boat.

Fuel

Mechanical


Transmission

Misc Projects


Shaft & Propeller

Also of Interest

Westerbeke/Universal now has the owner manuals online. You can download them at http://www.westerbeke.com/Products/OnlineManuals.aspx

Kubota Block Equivalents (you have to scroll down) http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/showthread.php?10241-Universal-5432-amp-M40-engine-information&highlight=kubota+block

and

http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8113.msg56648.html#msg56648