Taking the plunge on a new sail

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krafty81

I have been reading everything I can find online about adding an assym spin to my Mk II. It has a Spinnaker halyard but that's it. Would love to see how anyone in my area might have this rigged up on their boat. I live in San Diego, CA.

Thinking about a sail with a sock. Sheets for both sides, mostly gybing downwind. Looking for a sail that can go all the way to about 150 off the wind. Cruising first, racing later. Thanks!
2007 Catalina 34 Mk II, Hull #1786

Noah

I have one I use in San Diego. However, I have mine set-up on a Selden GX 10 furler and a Selden retractable bow sprit. Pros and cons. Pros: I can set up at the dock and unfurl and deploy from cockpit sailing single handed. Unlike using with a sock, where you need to go up to the bow. Cons: It is a more expensive and complicated system. Also, with either, make sure your spinnaker crane at the top of the mast extends far enough forward to not have a problem with your genoa furler.  Ideally, with my set-up, I would like a longer spinnaker crane, but it does work. Another issue to be mindful of with my set-up, is the retractable bowsprit goes across my anchor locker door, so I have to drop my furled spinnaker to the deck and unclip it from bowsprit and remove /slide the bowsprit aft before anchoring. This makes trip planning a bit trickier, as I can't just sail to my anchorage roll-up/douse the spinnaker and drop the anchor. A rare occurrence, but just need to plan ahead.
1990 hull #1014, San Diego, CA,  Fin Keel,
Standard Rig

Jim Hardesty

QuoteThinking about a sail with a sock. Sheets for both sides, mostly gybing downwind. Looking for a sail that can go all the way to about 150 off the wind.

Spinnaker on Shamrock is an OEM that I bought used.  Some other hardware I use to fly the spinnaker that you didn't mention.  Extra sheet blocks to go on outside track, a couple of cleats on the mast to cleat spinnaker halyard and sock line also an ATN tacker. 
Jim
Jim Hardesty
2001 MKII hull #1570 M35BC  "Shamrock"
sailing Lake Erie
from Commodore Perry Yacht Club
Erie, PA

Ted Pounds

Definitely get a sock or furler. (Sock is way cheaper). I can't imagine handling a big spinnaker without one.  I used a sock on mine and found I could single-hand with it. 
Ted Pounds
"Molly Rose"
1987 #447

krafty81

Quote from: Jim Hardesty on January 13, 2025, 04:56:54 AM
QuoteThinking about a sail with a sock. Sheets for both sides, mostly gybing downwind. Looking for a sail that can go all the way to about 150 off the wind.

Spinnaker on Shamrock is an OEM that I bought used.  Some other hardware I use to fly the spinnaker that you didn't mention.  Extra sheet blocks to go on outside track, a couple of cleats on the mast to cleat spinnaker halyard and sock line also an ATN tacker. 
Jim

What is the downside of not using the tacker? I have read about a cloth one or "beads". Several videos I have seen do not use one at all.
2007 Catalina 34 Mk II, Hull #1786

Noah

#5
Unlike a traditional spinnaker which is flown with a pole, an asymmetrical spinnaker has to attach the tack (somehow) to the bow of the boat. It also has to "worry" about to catching on the furled-up genoa. An ATN brand tacker is just one way just to secure the tack to the sail. It wraps around the furled genoa like a stiff belt. Instead, you can use a wire pendant to your stem-head/deck fitting. Or attach to a bowsprit. Lots of ways to facilitate the tack connection. Some also utilize an adjustable tack line so you can better trim the sail shape/tack height for different wind conditions and heading by slacking or tightening the tack line..
1990 hull #1014, San Diego, CA,  Fin Keel,
Standard Rig

krafty81

Quote from: Noah on January 13, 2025, 04:17:15 PMUnlike a traditional spinnaker which is flown with a pole, an asymmetrical spinnaker has to attach the tack (somehow) to the bow of the boat. It also has to "worry" about to catching on the furled-up genoa. An ATN brand tacker is just one way just to secure the tack to the sail. It wraps around the furled genoa like a stiff belt. Instead, you can use a wire pendant to your stem-head/deck fitting. Or attach to a bowsprit. Lots of ways to facilitate the tack connection. Some also utilize an adjustable tack line so you can better trim the sail shape/tack height for different wind conditions and heading by slacking or tightening the tack line..

Yes I am going to run a tack line back to an empty clutch instead of having an ATN tacker or similar device. Just one more thing for me to mess up. Can always add later. I do like how a tracker keeps the tack closer to the centerline.
2007 Catalina 34 Mk II, Hull #1786

Ron Hill

Guys : My a-spinnaker attaches to the tack around the furled genoa with neckless of 3/4"? beads. This allows the Tack to easily move up(the beads roll) or down as the conditions dictate!!

A thought 
Ron, Apache #788

krafty81

Quote from: Ron Hill on January 14, 2025, 02:39:09 PMGuys : My a-spinnaker attaches to the tack around the furled genoa with neckless of 3/4"? beads. This allows the Tack to easily move up(the beads roll) or down as the conditions dictate!!

A thought 

Just to be clear, the beads are not attached to a line, correct? I just worry they could hang up on something taller than me.
2007 Catalina 34 Mk II, Hull #1786

Noah

There is still a downhaul line.

"Parrel beads are solid nylon balls with holes drilled through them, through which a wire cable passes. The cable has stainless-steel thimbles at either end that are then shackled to the tack, making a closed loop of beads around the genoa. The parrel beads roll over the furled genoa, allowing the tack of the cruising spinnaker to be raised and lowered with ease."
1990 hull #1014, San Diego, CA,  Fin Keel,
Standard Rig