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Ron Hill

Then you got your answer!!!   :thumb:

A thought
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waughoo

Pbyrne,

Out of curiosity, I looked up my CS dimensions.  It is a 13.750 x 7.  I am able to reach max RPM at full throttle (about 25 to 50 rpm shy) and cruise at 2400 to 2600 rpm at about 6.25kts and max at about 7.1 to 7.2kts at 3150 rpm.
Alex - Seattle, WA
91 mk1.5 #1120
Std rig w/wing keel
Universal M35
Belafonte

pbyrne

Quote from: waughoo on August 29, 2024, 08:09:25 AMPbyrne,

Out of curiosity, I looked up my CS dimensions.  It is a 13.750 x 7.  I am able to reach max RPM at full throttle (about 25 to 50 rpm shy) and cruise at 2400 to 2600 rpm at about 6.25kts and max at about 7.1 to 7.2kts at 3150 rpm.

Interesting.  That means what they quoted is over pitched at 14x8...?
2000 Catalina 34 MK II #1534

pbyrne

Quote from: Ron Hill on August 28, 2024, 01:52:20 PMThen you got your answer!!!   :thumb:

A thought

I thought so, but then the 14x7 comment came up! LOL
2000 Catalina 34 MK II #1534

waughoo

I dont know that yours would be over pitched at the quoted spec.  I am experienci g some cavitation at full revs.  I suspect I am on the edge of being under pitched.  The mfg offers repitching service as part of purchase.  I wouldnt agonize over it.
Alex - Seattle, WA
91 mk1.5 #1120
Std rig w/wing keel
Universal M35
Belafonte

Robert Mann

I have the Campbell Sailer RH14x8 fitted to mine, as recommended by West by North.  Beats the nasty Martec folder hands down.  Mainly as I can raise the idle to a sensible point and stop the vibration at low idle. Talk to West by North before ordering, get the straight scoop from them.  I think mine is slightly over propped as it won't get to 3000rpm.  However, that said, I think my diesel is 10 years old and that is probably contributing more to the lower performance of the engine than the prop. 
Catalina 34 MkII, Indigostar, 2002 no 1622, Tall Rig, M35-BC

pbyrne

Quote from: Robert Mann on September 06, 2024, 02:37:46 PMI have the Campbell Sailer RH14x8 fitted to mine, as recommended by West by North.  Beats the nasty Martec folder hands down.  Mainly as I can raise the idle to a sensible point and stop the vibration at low idle. Talk to West by North before ordering, get the straight scoop from them.  I think mine is slightly over propped as it won't get to 3000rpm.  However, that said, I think my diesel is 10 years old and that is probably contributing more to the lower performance of the engine than the prop. 

Yes, I'll call to put in the order.  How do you find the performance?  One thing I will say for the variprop is it never felt like it struggled to weather with chop.  Always plenty of power to punch through.
2000 Catalina 34 MK II #1534

Robert Mann

To be quite honest, I barely motor so my comparison is a bit meaningless.  I will say the Martec was lousy going astern and the CS is a considerable improvement on that.  Theoretically you will lose some speed under sail as the prop just isn't as hydraulically efficient as a folded one, however I consider the improvement in idle setting, the less hammering on the shaft and skeg shift from forward to astern and the improvement getting out of the slip is worth the slight loss in sailing performance.
Catalina 34 MkII, Indigostar, 2002 no 1622, Tall Rig, M35-BC

Noah

Quote from: Robert Mann on September 15, 2024, 12:23:23 PMhowever I consider the improvement in idle setting, the less hammering on the shaft and skeg shift from forward to astern.

Not sure if those points are valid with all folding props? I have a 3-blade Flexofold" and have not experienced those "downsides"
1990 hull #1014, San Diego, CA,  Fin Keel,
Standard Rig

Robert Mann

Noah, I don't disagree with you. The points are purely related to the prop the PO of my boat installed. The Martec I had was about the most basic of its kind.
Catalina 34 MkII, Indigostar, 2002 no 1622, Tall Rig, M35-BC

Robert Mann

Pbyrne, one or two things to remember, if you are installing the prop. You will need to lap the prop taper to the shaft. Use fine valve grinding compound. Get a tube of Engineers Blue apply a very small amount to the shaft to check that the tapers are mating properly. When the tapers are close the prop will stick hard to the shaft and you might need a puller to separate them.  Do not let a boat yard beat your props off with a hammer. This can damage the transmission bearings, never mind other parts.  This is a common practice. My shaft is stainless, which replaced the standard bronze one, which the PO damaged when one wing of his folder stuck! The shaft was butchered to fit the Martec prop. This caused me to have to redrill the shaft to allow the cotter pin to be installed. Be prepared when you remove your prop in case similar issues have occurred.
Catalina 34 MkII, Indigostar, 2002 no 1622, Tall Rig, M35-BC