Outhaul Internal Boom Sheaves and Rigging

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RaymondP

With the first season of sailing on my 86 C34 Mk I now ended, I had experienced a hard time adjusting the outhaul.  Taking the boom internals apart looks like the sheaves are crumbling, a real mess!  Can anyone tell me the size of the internal sheaves inside the boom and a source for replacement.  Very open to advice and suggestions on sheave materials as well as modifying the configuration. Currently it is set up to adjust at the mast end but would prefer to operate from the back of the boat as I am often short-handed.

I have the diagram of the current internal arrangements and also notice Catalina Direct sells a replacement "kit" that provides a greater mechanical advantage (10-1?), but does not include all the internal sheaves or a line that is long enough to run to the rear of the boat for easy adjustment from the cockpit. Was thinking I could purchase the individual components and design/modify as preferred, but not sure if it would be worth it.

Would welcome input on anyone's experience in this area as well as potential resources.  Thank you.
1986 Catalina 34 Mk 1 Tall Rig, M25 21hp engine.
Long time sailor and racer, first time sailboat owner with intent to cruise and explore the Great Lakes.

Ted Pounds

Garhauer Marine, https://www.garhauermarine.com/, can probably tell you you the size, and definitely provide a replacement at a reasonable price.  👍👍
Ted Pounds
"Molly Rose"
1987 #447

RaymondP

Thank you.  Sent them an email.  No other responses as yet.
1986 Catalina 34 Mk 1 Tall Rig, M25 21hp engine.
Long time sailor and racer, first time sailboat owner with intent to cruise and explore the Great Lakes.

Ted Pounds

Quote from: RaymondP on January 16, 2025, 10:37:26 AMThank you.  Sent them an email.  No other responses as yet.

Best bet is probably to give them a call.  I always dealt with them over the phone.  They're very helpful.  👍
Ted Pounds
"Molly Rose"
1987 #447

Ron Hill

Ray : Call Gauhauer @ (909) 985-7513 or 9993  Talk to Bill Felgenhauer or Quedo

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Ed Shankle

Ed Shankle
Tail Wind #866 1989 m25xp
Salem, MA

Ron Hill

Ray : Anyone at Garhauer will be VERY helpful!!

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derekb

#7
Hi Ray,

I rebuilt my boom and used the 10:1 outhaul kit from Catalina Direct. Part number Z3822. Worked a treat. Added a longer line to extend it to the cockpit (but haven't fully set that up yet).

Regards,
Derek
Derek Buckmaster
Esprit, 1986 C34 Mark I #29. Fin keel, Universal M25, loose-footed main.
Geelong, Victoria, Australia

Ron Hill

Derek : Just out of curiosity - Why would you want the main outhaul line to extend into the cockpit??

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Noah

I would guess it is to make it easier to reach/adjust than in its current location on the boom.
1990 hull #1014, San Diego, CA,  Fin Keel,
Standard Rig

KWKloeber

QuoteWhy would you want the main outhaul line to extend into the cockpit??

A thought? 

Because sail foot tension should be adjusted as sailing/wind conditions change?
It's the normal setup on a racing boat.
Twenty years from now you'll be more disappointed by the things you didn't do, than by the ones you did.
So throw off the bowlines.  Sail away from the safe harbor.  Catch the tradewinds in your sails.
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Ron Hill

Guys : I understand why a "Loose footed main" should have its tension changed. However, most of us have the main with a bolt rope in the boom groove!!

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Noah

Quote from: Ron Hill on February 11, 2025, 02:19:00 PMHowever, most of us have the main with a bolt rope in the boom groove!!
This would make for an interesting survey (?). I bet a lot of folks now days have replaced their "old" bolt rope-style  mainsails with loose footed ones.
1990 hull #1014, San Diego, CA,  Fin Keel,
Standard Rig

scgunner

Noah,

I would agree with you if you've got replacement sails I'll bet most people are running loose foot mains. Like full battens it's just a more evolved technology. I can't imagine any sail maker recommending you stick with a bolt rope foot. The loose foot performs better and has a much wider range of adjustment plus it's much easier to make those adjustments.
Kevin Quistberg                                                 Top Gun 1987 Mk 1 Hull #273

joe feyder

I replaced the outhaul rigging on our 90 a few years and it has been a great upgrade.  Our main is loose footed and the outhaul control line runs to the cockpit.  When the wind picks up I am glad to be able to flatten the main.  The components for our 10:1 system were bought individually from Catalina direct and elsewhere.  The harken blocks are upsized without swivels.  A prior post highly recommended blocks without swivels (our original jammed due to twisted lines).  A rigger recommended using dyneema vs. SS wire which works very well.  Splicing dyneema comes with a few tricks, but there is plenty of information on line.  We replaced the boom sheeves and removed any unnecessary fittings with internal bolts or screws.  Tap wood, it has worked well.