Thanks for the feedback, Ken I like the idea of using a bottoming tap to clear the threads, makes sense, I will have to reread tips and tricks for bottom stud but I am fortunate to have long arms and I was able to reach around from the front of the engine. The nuts released fairly easily. The plan was to give a modest attempt at turning the nuts and if no success soaking with PB Blaster and trying a week later. The top nuts were released with a 6 sided ratchet. Great advice Ron, it held the nuts tight. Of course the bottom nut was seized. I bought a crescent brand wrench 12 point (no 6 point available so I went with what they had), it made some claim about pressure on the nut head was improved, it worked but I honestly didn't see a difference with my Napa box wrench comparing them side by side. Was able to use short arcs from the side, took awhile but success. That's why I thought a ratchet box would be better. Didn't think about its size. Thanks again