Restricted Forum to members only?

[Ken Juul]

If you are a member of the C34IA you would know from reading the Officer's notes that paypal is coming.  I've been making promises for about a year.  Circumstances out of my control have conspired against me.  By 2009, payment on line will be availble.  Web guys please don't fail me.

[PamC]

I am a C25 owner, planning on becoming a C34 owner, who entertained a brief daliance with the idea of becoming a C42 owner.  During that affair I changed my membership from the C25IA to the C42IA.  And now that I've seen the light I realize I belong in the C34IA.     I will second that having the open forums are important to those of us who are in the research phase, and who will likely become members when we make our rattled minds up on which Catalina we want.

[sail4dale]

I still haven't had a response on my comments on Nov. 20  regarding already belonging to a Catalina fleet.  For you reference I asked:

Requiring a membership to the Fleet34  on line seems redundant as we belong to our own "All Catalina Fleet 24" here in Los Angeles Harbor.  Paying dues to another Catalina fleet doesn't add up.

Are you saying that unless you belong to this Cat34 fleet youwill be locked out of this web site?   I do enjoy the message board and the input from the members but more dues at this time is not in my list of favorite things to do in 2009.

[waterdog]

It was only raised as a question for discussion to see if it was a means of raising more money for the C34 association.  I don't think there was anything close to a consensus that the executive would want to act on.   So, by all means, continue to enjoy the forum...   

[Stu Jackson]

Membership Definitions

1.  This Message Board and the C34 IA website - it's FREE.  The ONLY part of the C34 IA website that requires membership in the C34 IA are the individual Tech Notes Online.  You become a "member" of this MB by using your own username and password and no one else knows what that is, so keep it handy.

2.  C34 IA membership.  Get's you into Tech Notes Online, and the Mainsheet magazine (quarterly).  The C34 IA dues help support this website, not the local fleets.

3.  Local C34 Fleets - we have a bunch:  1 San Francisco  5 - Puget Sound  8 - Emerald Coast FL  12 - Chesapeake Bay   13 - Lake Lanier GA  You don't have to be an IA member to be a local fleet member and vice versa.

In addition to C34 groups, there are "All Catalina Associations" and fleets across the country.  Many started when folks with smaller boats bought larger boats and remained friends with their colleagues, so folks with Catalinas of different sizes started their own different sized-Catalina fleets.  They're similar to our "one design" local fleets with different sized boats.

No one's saying anyone's gonna get locked outta anything - in reading this thread there was a question raised with much good discussion, and no changes.

[waterdog]

If you are a member of the C34IA you would know from reading the Officer's notes that paypal is coming.  I've been making promises for about a year.  Circumstances out of my control have conspired against me.  By 2009, payment on line will be availble.  Web guys please don't fail me.

By the way, the online payment thing is is a big deal.  I didn't join the association for well over a year because it meant that I would have to go to my bank and get a bank draft or money order denominated in US funds.   Can you imagine?  Actually going into a bank and interacting with a human?   I haven't done that since my mortgage was last up for renewal.  So looking forward to renewing electronically...

[sail4dale]

Thanks Stu, Good response.  Thanks also for a neat web site. 

[DaveM]

I know that I do not have a C34, but the power plant and wiring in my O'Day 34 is identical.  Even on add-on equipment this site has been very valuable, not to mention many other sailing ideas.  Although the Mainsheet is interesting, the site is of far more value for me.  I would be for the membership fee to all go to supporting the site and a separate fee for the Mainsheet subscription.  I really appreciate the energy and effort y'all are putting into this site.

Good Winds
DaveM

[Ted Pounds]

Maybe when we get the online membership renewal we can add an option to make a donation in support of the website/message board.  That way nonmembers like DaveM could help support the site based on what they felt it was worth to them.  And even members who feel they get value over and above their membership could kick in a little extra if they wanted to.  I am active in the sport of rowing and just made a contribution to Row2K.com, a great rowing website that operates on the voluntary donation model. 

[Ken Juul]

Just got my December copy of the Mainsheet.  Some great articles on cruising; Great Lakes, Southern Cal, Baja Ha Ha, and a circumnavigation in a 440. 

The tech notes section was even better.  A short list of topics covered.  Transmission replacement, traveller & Vang replacement, Anchor Sail, motorized mast hoist, St 4000 wheel drive rebuild, PYI Shaft Seal install, Cockit table, Lifesling Install, teak replacement, LEDs on the Electrical panel, AC/DC referigeration, Steering cable adjustment, rudder postion Sensor install, Dingy Davits, Engine Exhaust Loop leak, new sink faucet, fender covers, Hot Water Heater Bypass, rig safety, Engine sound insulation, Asy Spinnaker Tack attachment, fresh water pumps, and Bottom Paint failure.

Almost all of the information from the 10 different models is applicable in some way to the C34.  There is no way I could easily glean that much info from different websites.  I just don't have the time.  Before you dis the association and magazine, you should at least give it a try.  If you don't like it, no one will force you to stay.