Removing and re-finishing the pedestal on a Mk I

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Ron Hill

Guys : Guess I do NOT understand what is wrong with the engine cut off installed where it is ???
 
Also why go from a simple mechanical shutoff to an electronic shutoff which I believe will have a much higher probably of failure!!!

A few thoughts   
Ron, Apache #788

Phil Spicer

Derek,you have taken on one big project. Your work looks great,keep it up. Keep us up to date as you progress. Looking forward to new pictures of all your new goodies.
Phil & Marsha,Sandusky Sailing Club. Steamboat is #789,tall/wing-Unv M25XP/Hurth ZF 50 trans.

derekb

Quote from: KWKloeber on April 11, 2025, 11:54:06 AMWow, nice work.  Are you using Imron?


Ken, no the paint I'm using is a two-part linear polyurethane (Norglass "Northane", which is made here in Australia) - it's similar to Imron, but not the same.

Quote from: Ron Hill on April 14, 2025, 02:49:18 PMGuys : Guess I do NOT understand what is wrong with the engine cut off installed where it is ???
 

Hi Ron, I'll post more details on my instrument panel upgrade soon, but the hole on the lower edge of the instrument bezel where the shut-off cable was mounted had become elongated and the cable was out of alignment, which meant that the instrument panel clear cover would not fit in place (since it interfered with the operation of the cable), and it was difficult to use. So I had to do something to repair it... I just decided to move it away from the engine instrument panel entirely.

Some before and after photos will show the problem (coming soon).

Derek 
Derek Buckmaster
Esprit, 1986 C34 Mark I #29. Fin keel, Universal M25, loose-footed main.
Geelong, Victoria, Australia

derekb

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An update on this project, the major cosmetic improvement was completed today with the installation of the refurbished binnacle and the new pedestal guard.



The new pedestal guard came with replacements for the mounting feed (molded plastic on this Mk.I) and the top plate (stainless steel, compared to the original painted item). The base of the pedestal has been sealed with Bed-It butyl tape. The pulleys have not been installed underneath yet.

Together with the refinished pedestal, this all looks great and makes a fantastic cosmetic improvement compared to the previous peeling paint. Excuse the dusty cockpit seats and dirty sole!

Don't look too closely, the compass is offset by 90 degrees. Next I have to replace the steering gear and relocate the throttle and gear control cables.
Derek Buckmaster
Esprit, 1986 C34 Mark I #29. Fin keel, Universal M25, loose-footed main.
Geelong, Victoria, Australia

Noah

Are you relocating the throttle and shifter controls onto the pedestal—which is how MKI boats came from factory?
1990 hull #1014, San Diego, CA,  Fin Keel,
Standard Rig

KWKloeber

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Quote from: Ron Hill on April 14, 2025, 02:49:18 PMGuys : Guess I do NOT understand what is wrong with the engine cut off installed where it is ???
 
Also why go from a simple mechanical shutoff to an electronic shutoff which I believe will have a much higher probably of failure!!!

A few thoughts   

Ron,

Likewise, what's wrong with pushing a preheat button for 15-30 seconds (as it was designed and is done by Kubota) instead of for 5-10 seconds, and doubling the complexity of the preheat system, and over-voltaging the 10-volt glow plugs?

Another thought.
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derekb

Quote from: Noah on April 25, 2025, 09:07:20 AMAre you relocating the throttle and shifter controls onto the pedestal—which is how MKI boats came from factory?

Hi Noah, yes, that's the plan, return the boat to its factory set-up. You can see the throttle and shifter just below the engine instruments on the port side of the cockpit. This was modified by a previous owner and it's not a good location for those controls.
Derek Buckmaster
Esprit, 1986 C34 Mark I #29. Fin keel, Universal M25, loose-footed main.
Geelong, Victoria, Australia

Noah

Excellent! Are you adding a chart plotter or nav instruments to your angle guard? If so it might be somewhat "tricky" with no forward bend/angle in the angle guard.
1990 hull #1014, San Diego, CA,  Fin Keel,
Standard Rig

derekb

Quote from: Noah on April 25, 2025, 04:47:46 PMExcellent! Are you adding a chart plotter or nav instruments to your angle guard? If so it might be somewhat "tricky" with no forward bend/angle in the angle guard.

Hi Noah, yes, I'll be re-installing my B&G Vulcan 7" the same as previously shown on this post:

https://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,11315.msg90641.html#msg90641



The only addition I'll make to this layout is to extend the mounting plate (the white HDPE part) slightly either side of the pedestal guard - on one side I'll mount a charging bracket to hold my radio handset (B&G H60) and on the other side I'll mount a bracket to hold my mobile phone.

I'll also be adding brackets to mount the existing cockpit table (Edson 860-100-125 Universal Clamp-On Table Mounting) once again.
Derek Buckmaster
Esprit, 1986 C34 Mark I #29. Fin keel, Universal M25, loose-footed main.
Geelong, Victoria, Australia

waughoo

Excellent set up!! If you haven't already, Edson sells a new busing kit for the throttle and shift levers.  Mine were cracked and worn such that everything was really wobbly.  The simply press out and back in again.  It really improved the feel.
Alex - Seattle, WA
91 mk1.5 #1120
Std rig w/wing keel
Universal M35
Belafonte

Noah

derekb— Can you still view your magnetic compass with Vulcan in place? Also, have your checked for magnetic deviation due to proximity of Vulcan plotter and bracket?
1990 hull #1014, San Diego, CA,  Fin Keel,
Standard Rig

derekb

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Quote from: Noah on April 26, 2025, 10:54:25 AMderekb— Can you still view your magnetic compass with Vulcan in place? Also, have your checked for magnetic deviation due to proximity of Vulcan plotter and bracket?

Noah, the Vulcan doesn't interfere with viewing the compass, as you can see in this sailing photo (with the old pedestal guard):



I might mount the Vulcan slightly higher with this new pedestal guard, as it appears to be taller than the old one I removed.

I couldn't detect any deviation on the magnetic compass with the Vulcan in place compared to when it's removed (I store it inside the cabin), or with it powered up. The Vulcan bracket is plastic and the unit itself contains very little metal.
Derek Buckmaster
Esprit, 1986 C34 Mark I #29. Fin keel, Universal M25, loose-footed main.
Geelong, Victoria, Australia