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Vertical Windlass Installation Guide

By Rick Johnson Godspeed #1110 1990


After 4 years of assigning unsuspecting newbie crew members the task of hauling up the anchor, I was beginning to run out of victims. Since the captain of S/V Godspeed (1990 Catalina 34 #1110) is just over a ½ century in age and with a 35lbs CQR anchor, I decide that installing a windlass might be a valuable improvement.


The Project
When I noticed that the Lewmar V-1 windlass was being discontinued and the discounted price was as low as $420 for a new windlass, I decided it was time to pry open my wallet.

The original concept was to construct a fiberglass box that would fit into the recessed portion of the aft bulkhead of the anchor well (see photo below). This box would allow me to mount a vertical windlass without cutting holes in the deck or the anchor well hatch. I did realize that a hole would need to be cut in the bulkhead for the windlass motor, but felt it might be similar to how the factory installed windlass is mounted. Since the windlass would be entirely within the anchor well and the hatch was still intact, I felt the windlass would be protected from the elements. The other consideration was that I would not have issues with the windlass snagging jib sheets or other lines. It all sounded good to me in the planning stages.

Windlass Concept
Note: The picture is not my anchor well. My C34 never had a windlass installed.

One issue that became apparent right away was that if the top of the fiberglass box was the same height as the surrounding fiberglass structure the top of the windlass would block the anchor well hatch from closing. The first modification was to drop the top of the fiberglass box to provide clearance. The finished dimensions were calculated to be 9" wide x 6" deep x 11" tall. Since I had the "finished” dimensions, I decided to construct a female mold and work from that. For construction I decided that the box should be alternating layers of fiberglass cloth and fiberglass bi-axel cloth. To save a little money, I used MAS epoxy resin which costs slightly less than West Systems.

One “failure to notice” at this point was that the recess in the anchor well is not by any means “square”!


The Box
BOX

I used 3/4" birch plywood from Home Depot for the mold. The sections were clamped together and the inside coated with a heavy layer of Johnson's paste wax as a release agent.

Fiberglass Layers
I alternated layers using 8 oz fiberglass cloth and the biaxial cloth (medium weight).

After every two layers of cloth I would add a layer of 6" wide fiberglass cloth tape around the parameter of the box to build up more strength in the sides of the box. I don't remember the total numbers of layers but it was probably around twelve layers. The box is a little over 5/16" thick. Probably more like 3/8" on the face.


Female Mold
Note: Yes, Harp beer is a requirement if you want this project done right!
Top
TOP

The top piece was constructed using 1/4" marine plywood cut to 11”x9”. I laid up alternating layers of 8 oz. fiberglass cloth and biaxial cloth (medium weight) on both sides until the whole top was 3/4" thick.

When the epoxy resin was still “green” (not quite hard), I used a sharp knife to rough trim the top. Once the resin had setup, I trimmed the edges with a table saw. I used the table saw to also cut a 1/4" groove (1/4" deep) in all four edges to remove the plywood. I filled the groove using epoxy resin and colloidal silica. To attach the top to the box I used four 1/4" x 2" stainless steel flat head machine screws (holes were countersunk) and 2 layers of 8 oz. fiberglass cloth (saturated in epoxy resin) between the top and the box. Top was screwed down tight to the box and the resin was allowed to cure. Using the template that came with the windlass, I drilled five 3/8” holes for the mounting bolts and used a 3” hole saw to cut the two holes for the rode and the motor shaft. I also used a 6” hole saw to cut the hole for the windlass motor.

Attaching Top
Note: I managed to burn up my Sears ½” drill cutting all three holes. The laid up box is very HARD, so don’t skimp on the quality of the hole saw like I did!
Flange
FLANGE

The flange that was added to the port side was laid up in the same way using the two side pieces from the original box mold, nailed together to form an "L". The fiberglass was again laid up alternating layers of 8 oz. fiberglass cloth and biaxial cloth (medium weight). The finished result ended up being about 5/16" thick.

I sanded the two surfaces that would be mated together with 50 grit sandpaper. I drilled four 1/4" holes (2 on each side) for two pair of stainless steel 1/4" x 1" flat head machine screws and nuts. I used two pieces of 8 oz. cloth (saturated in epoxy resin) between the box and the flange. Once, I tightened down the screws, I cleaned up the resin that was forced out. My original plan was to remove these screws after the resin had setup, but with the resin getting into the threads, I decided that I would just leave the screws in place.

Test Fitting
On the test fitting I decided that the corners of the top would be a problem and needed to be cut off. I don’t remember the exact angle but I believe I measured in 1” on the front and 2” on the sides to get an angled corner that was out of the way and removed any sharp edges.
Finishing
FINISHING

I made a fairing compound using MAS epoxy resin and phenolic micro balloons. This needs to be very thick (like peanut butter). To apply the fairing compound I used a plastic spreader from Home Depot. Between each coat, I would sand everything smooth using 150 grit sandpaper and a palm sander.

Once I had a smooth surface. I washed everything with soap and water and then wiped everything down repeatedly with acetone. I used a Preval disposable paint sprayer (http://www.prevalspraygun.com/home.htm) to spray 2 layers of gelcoat on the inside and outside of the box.

The gelcoat I used was Finish Gel Coat - Waxed Non-Lam, Pint, White (#3745478) from West Marine. The color is not even close to my hull color and is a very bright white. I was not happy with the color, but decided that it was in the anchor well so no one would ever see it. Now that it's installed, I don't even notice the color. I did thin the gelcoat with about 20 % acetone. The Preval sprayed was not great but the box is small and it got the job done. I was mixing about 4 ounces of gelcoat at a time. I would sand between each coat using 220 grit sandpaper. Then, I would wash down the box with soap and water and again wipe it with acetone to make sure I had removed any wax.

Mounting
The box was mounted in the anchor well using eight 1/4" stainless steel machine screws. The lengths vary due the thickness of the anchor well. I used 5200 in addition to the machine screws to attach the box. I had originally intended to fiberglass the box into the anchor well, but decided that 5200 would make it at least possible to remove the box if ever needed in the future (unlikely, but possible). As you can see in the picture above, I had a small gap at the top port corner. I glassed in a small piece of fiberglass scrap and used a dremel tool to sand it to shape. After the 5200 cured, I went back on a sunny day. With the anchor well open, I looked from inside the v-berth for any sunlight shining through thin sports of 5200 or cracks. I applied additional 5200 in the few thin spots I found and everything should be watertight now. I’ve considered filling the anchor well with water just to check, but I’m trying to suppress those feelings!

Interior Work and Wiring

Wiring
I briefly considered adding a dedicated windlass battery under the v-berth, but after measuring the distance and checking the Lewmar Installation Manual, I decided that the starting battery under the forward portion of the starboard settee would be close enough (this is about an 18’ run, so I ordered 22’ foot of marine battery cable just to be sure). The Lewmar manual requires #3 cable for runs of 34-60 ft (remember, it’s the total length of both cables (18’ + 18’ = 36’)). I have no idea where you might find #3 cable and having always believed that “bigger is better”, I went with #2 cable.
Circuit Breaker
The location also allowed me a good spot to mount the 90 amp circuit breaker. It may not be the most accessible location when the table is installed but it keeps the cable runs short and is a dry location.
Windlass Wiring
I used a 3/8” inch drill bit to drill hole in all four corners of the square I wanted to cut out and then used a saber saw (jig saw) to connect the holes. At this point I don’t remember the actual size of the cutout. I used two ¼”x1” allen head stainless steel screws/nuts to secure the circuit breaker (allen heads just because they were in my stainless steel nuts and bolts collection).

For the cable runs, I wanted to continue under the starboard settee, into the forward hanging locker and up to the existing wire runs at the hull/deck joint. This required using a 1” hole saw and cutting a hole through the forward bulkhead and another through the top of the hanging locker. I need to cut some teak trim pieces to hide the battery cables coming out of the top of the hanging locker. To support the cable and as chafe protection, I decided to use 1 ¼” thin walled PVC as conduit. This is currently installed with plastic straps and nylon screws/nuts (or metal straps at the hull/deck joint), but I will eventually fiberglass these in using 3 or 4 layers of 8 oz. fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin.

Windlass Wiring
I used 1’ black flex tube to run through the actual hole in the bulkhead. The foam tubes at the bottom of the picture cover the copper lines running to the refrigerator.
Windlass Wiring
The cables continue up through the hanging locker and out the top.
Windlass Hole
Notice that the hole cannot be cut directly next to the teak bulkhead. I forgot that the hanging locker is basically a fiberglass box and did not account for its thickness when I drilled a pilot hole. Now I have an addition hole to patch but it should be covered when I add the teak trim pieces to cover the cables.
Windlass Wiring
Catalina Yachts used 2”x4” Douglas-fir blocks as screw points for the plywood/vinyl trim piece to cover the wiring. These are glued to the overhead using a very hard and brittle adhesive. I used a Makita battery powered 3 3/8” circular saw to trim enough room for the cable to fit between the hull and the blocks. Not the smoothest cuts I’ve even made, but it will all be hidden anyway. I would not try a hammer and chisel to do this due to the brittleness of the adhesive holding the blocks. Before I added the trim piece I used some plastic wire wrap to give the cable some addition chafe protection where it passes beside the blocks. The metal clips holding the PVC are just attached with an additional nut to the bolts though the hull/deck joint (it doesn’t look like the trim piece will fit correctly but it does). I’m not 100% happy with this installation method and I really need to replace the cheap metal clips with stainless steel from McMaster-Carr.
Bulkhead
I originally made the hole through the anchor well for the windlass motor as small as possible. The thought being, if I had a water leak from the new installation, I would want the smallest possible hole into the cabin. A good thought, but it really made it impossible to install the motor.

I added a second hole in the aft part of the anchor well and removed the material between them. Seemed like a good idea at the time. In test fittings, I enlarged the aft hole twice before I settled on making it about as large as possible. Getting the nuts on the two forward studs of the windlass is still a pain, but is at least possible

Bulkhead
I located the dual-direction contactor above the motor. Again, this will keep the wire runs short. This area had a core of ¾” marine plywood as part of Catalina Yachts original windlass design (my C34 never had this option installed). It made a nice, secure and dry location to mount the contactor. As you can see from the picture, I mounted the contactor upside down, so make sure to take that into account when you start wiring everything up.
Bulkhead
OK, now that I finally gave up the idea of a “small” hole, I finally have the room I need to access the studs/nuts and mounting collar. It sure would have been easier to start with this concept in the first place! To the port side you can see the two mounting screws that are installed in the box’s flange. At the bottom of the box you can see another mounting screw (the other is under the black wire). There are four more mounting screws (2 at the top and 2 at the bottom) on the starboard side of the box. You can see the wiring from both the “up” and “down” switches at the top of the photograph. The cables have been run but need to be shortened and everything needs to be “dress” with plastic wire wrap and cable ties. The bundle of black wire below the motor is for the chain count indicator which I will not be installing (a $250 option). The yellow wire is for the thermo cutoff for the motor and needed to be installed to the contactor.
Vent
Just in case I need to get to the windlass motor or wiring, I added a teak vent to the teak bulkhead in the v-berth. It’s held in place with four #8 stainless steel oval head screws. Hopefully I won’t need to get to the windlass motor often, but this should make it easier.
Chain protector
The final touch was to add a 1/8”x4”x12” stainless steel plate to protect the fiberglass from the chain. It’s bent into an “L” shape so as not to provide a bottom edge that might catch the chain. I tried to countersink the screw heads in the plate but the stainless was too hard for my countersink bit. I had considered using stainless steel pop-rivets and now think that would have been the better way to go. Naturally, I slathered on a mess of 5200 to help bed the plate.
Finished!
DONE! The whole thing works great and looks pretty good. I do find that the motor uses one hell of a lot of power. The current starting battery is rather small so that will be upgraded at some point in the future. The whole project probably cost me about $800, including the fiberglass cloth, resin, cable, gelcoat, switches and V1 windlass. Not cheap, but I’m happy with the results.

Cheers, Rick