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Author Topic: DOCKING 101 -- Mid Ship Cleat and Aft Spring  (Read 18360 times)

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Bobg

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Re: Mid Ship Cleat and Aft Spring Line
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2011, 06:34:57 PM »

Kevin, your post couldn't have came at a better time, we have a new slip and after reading your post, I ran right out and made 3 of them with dock line I had laying around, 1/2" and 3/8" and clear tubing I had, heck a garden hose would work, I made mine a little bigger with 5' of tubing, as my cleats are pretty big,  we came in slick as could be,  she laid the loop over the cleat and leaving it in gear I gently nudged the dock, I had to use a lot of rudder as the bow did try to impact the dock more than I wanted but no more jumping off the boat for us.  I had Jack Klanges DVD on docking, although good, he never mentioned the looped line like you did,  Thanks from us   Bob and Eileen
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Re: DOCKING 101 -- Mid Ship Cleat and Aft Spring
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2017, 03:58:32 PM »

I docked for the first time with a new boat in a new slip at close to midnight in a river that happened to be in flood stage with both wind and current across my slip setting me towards my neighbor boat in my well.  We were ready with the mid-ship spring but I just couldn't get the boat lined up right with any confidence of being close enough to the cleat to hook it.

I chickened out (or maybe acted with prudence?) and took the slip on the upwind and upcurrent side of a finger pier and tied up without incident.

The next morning, I moved over to my slip with many hands (all of which were required!) to get me secured before meeting my new neighbor the hard way.

On of the first things I did was to put that midship spring in place and see whether this whole "physics" thing worked.  Lo and behold... even with the worst current running in recent memory and a right fair breeze both working against me, I could hold that boat right where she needed to be.

So now I trust it, and know how to use it... now just have to master getting close enough to the dock to get that loop on the cleat, while being set sideways away from said dock by the current, without hitting it!
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Re: DOCKING 101 -- Mid Ship Cleat and Aft Spring
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2017, 04:54:09 PM »

The length of your runway can be a big deal breaker. If you don't have enough time, or hands to lasso or hook the dock cleat, or to pick up a spring line already measured and cleated to the dock....then all bets are off. Then try plan "B", the hot stick landing with engine burst(s) in reverse.
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Re: DOCKING 101 -- Mid Ship Cleat and Aft Spring
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2017, 05:12:20 PM »

acted with prudence

DEFO,  I wish that we all had a Plan B available when it's prudent to use it.  Kudos

The GREAT thing about having a midship line, is to throw when approaching an unknown dock and you're unsure whether the hands there are going to "help" or "hinder."
They can't screw you up and dive your bow or the stern quarter into the dock, or end up turning you sideways.

ken
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Re: DOCKING 101 -- Mid Ship Cleat and Aft Spring
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2017, 05:01:11 AM »

Congratulations Ralph,
One of the great things about sailing, there is always something else to learn.
Happy docking,
Jim
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Re: DOCKING 101 -- Mid Ship Cleat and Aft Spring
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2017, 03:05:06 PM »

It's been awhile since I first posted this topic.  I'm glad to see it still relevant and helpful.  :D  My current home slip is now an upwind slip and an arrangement that does not allow me to use the spring line arrangement as much as I did.  However... My line is always made up and at the ready in the port locker just in case!  :thumb: 
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Re: DOCKING 101 -- Mid Ship Cleat and Aft Spring
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2017, 06:07:31 PM »

The boat I owned for just 2 months prior to my 34 had a midships cleat and I had spring lines. I suggested adding a folding cleat (or two) to the current boat.
I am not happy dangling fenders from the lifelines and figured deck cleats would be a better idea.
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Re: DOCKING 101 -- Mid Ship Cleat and Aft Spring
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2017, 07:07:06 PM »

Sophie, the 101 Topics has a few singlehanding topics, one of which was not linked in Kevin's great story that started this topic, but that's where it started.  Easy to find.
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