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Re: CRITICAL UPGRADES - DO THESE OR ELSE!!!
« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2016, 12:39:23 PM »

Dedicated Start Battery
When I fist bought my boat, 1989 MK1, and replaced the batteries with 2 new group 27s, I thought my starting issues would be over.  The engine would start most of the time but from time to time, it just would not start or even click.  Cleaned and tighten all the connections, replaced start button, ignition switch and fuses but still was not reliable 100% of the time.  A big problem with the OEM design is the cable length and number of connections.  Over time, these connection lose continuity along with the voltage drop due to cable length.  I thought I'd solve the problem by carrying a jump starter battery pack which saved me once or twice.  The problem with that is it takes time to set it up.  When your drifting towards a hazard there may not be enough time to set it up.  The answer is a dedicate start battery connected directly to the starter with much shorter cable runs.  There are several ways to accomplish this that can be found on this site.  This upgrade will effectivley double your house bank size if you have the OEM 2 grp 27 house batteries by allowing you to use your house bank without worrying if your engine will start.
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Re: CRITICAL UPGRADES - DO THESE OR ELSE!!!
« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2016, 03:45:55 PM »

Dedicated Start Battery

A big problem with the OEM design is the cable length and number of connections.  Over time, these connection lose continuity along with the voltage drop due to cable length.

The answer is a dedicate start battery connected directly to the starter with much shorter cable runs.  There are several ways to accomplish this that can be found on this site.  This upgrade will effectively double your house bank size if you have the OEM 2 grp 27 house batteries by allowing you to use your house bank without worrying if your engine will start.

You might be interested in this observation:
 
http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8971.msg64907.html#msg64907

You're right about doubling the house bank size by doing this.  Remember, that the original boats were usually delivered with a "two house bank" system.  It is 1980s "technology."
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Re: CRITICAL UPGRADES - DO THIS OR ELSE!!!
« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2016, 05:36:25 AM »

ENGINE SERVICE BULLETINS

YOU'D BE REALLY DUMB TO NOT CHECK THESE

AND THEN ACTUALLY DO THEM


...Also look around the Westerbeke/Universal engine website, here:

http://www.westerbeke.com/Products/InstallationManual.aspx?ID=7

...I clicked the link and it works for me...

The above link is still dead on all of my computers. Could someone else try it to verify whether I'm the only one getting the 404 error message shown below?

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The resource cannot be found.

Description: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.  Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly.

Requested URL: /Products/InstallationManual.aspx
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Re: CRITICAL UPGRADES - DO THESE OR ELSE!!!
« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2016, 07:01:27 AM »

I noticed the dead link Friday when I posted my SBs on the Wiki, but didn't mention it.  Wb changed its website (to "improve" it?) but not surprisingly mucked it up. 

The SBs that I have are posted here  If anyone sees one I'm missing let me know and I'll modify the post. 
http://www.c34.org/wiki/index.php?title=Manuals   (I OCR'd the PDF so you can search on a keyword.)

The link to the Wb page to the Universal documents is:  http://www.westerbeke.com/universalenginelibrary.htm
Then click on your model (the Service Bulletins are not linked in one location as they were previously.) 

But Wb screwed up the SBs -- the engine link doesn't necessarily show all the SBs for that engine.  For instance, the M25 shows only a four SBs (only FOUR?? no mention of an exploding alternator bracket, for example.)  Another example, the SB for the tranny linkage is on the A4 page, not the M25 page, but is on the XP page. 

JTSO, but typical for Wb, but let's make sure we have a monopoly on an inferior seawater pump.

Gee I wonder why CTY dumped Universal?

-kk
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