Dinghy Warranty

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pbyrne

Looking for a new dinghy and engine, and it's been a bit of a mine field getting current solid info on warranties.

Who's making dinghy's with a good trust worthy warranty?   I'm sure there is plenty of experience here!
2000 Catalina 34 MK II #1534

karista

Good luck in your search! Had a Zodiac Fastroller Dinghy, the entire transom separated from the tubes after 3 years while still under warranty which was not honered and useless. Then bought a Mercury Hypalon RIB with a 10 year fabric warranty, the fabric was white and after 2 years it developed gray patches on both tubes. The selling dealer turned this over to Mercury only to be told that discoloration is not warranted.
So, the warranties I had from Zodiac and Mercury were useless.
Bernd, 1990- Hull 1012, Gulfport, FL

pbyrne

Quote from: karista on May 06, 2023, 08:16:38 AM
Good luck in your search! Had a Zodiac Fastroller Dinghy, the entire transom separated from the tubes after 3 years while still under warranty which was not honered and useless. Then bought a Mercury Hypalon RIB with a 10 year fabric warranty, the fabric was white and after 2 years it developed gray patches on both tubes. The selling dealer turned this over to Mercury only to be told that discoloration is not warranted.
So, the warranties I had from Zodiac and Mercury were useless.

Ouch.  I've get a line on an Achilles roll up that's a few years old.  They seem well built.
2000 Catalina 34 MK II #1534

Ron Hill

pby : If you want to haul more than 2 or 3 people I wouldn't get a roll-up!!

My thought
Ron, Apache #788

Jim Hardesty

QuoteWho's making dinghy's with a good trust worthy warranty?

My two cents is that a good dealer is probably better than a good warranty.  If the dinghy needs a repair but needs to be shipped somewhere to fix that's inconvenient and expensive.
Jim
Jim Hardesty
2001 MKII hull #1570 M35BC  "Shamrock"
sailing Lake Erie
from Commodore Perry Yacht Club
Erie, PA

pbyrne

Quote from: Jim Hardesty on May 07, 2023, 03:45:29 AM
QuoteWho's making dinghy's with a good trust worthy warranty?

My two cents is that a good dealer is probably better than a good warranty.  If the dinghy needs a repair but needs to be shipped somewhere to fix that's inconvenient and expensive.
Jim

Yes, I agree.  I've ruled out Achilles and AB because of that.  I really only have Highfield nearby.  They seem to have dominanted the area around me at least.  The warranty, on PVC is 5 years tube and seams, if you register, 2 years otherwise.  Not sure why you need to register, but might as well!
2000 Catalina 34 MK II #1534

Analgesic

Another opinion: my 20 year old Achilles 10'6" air deck roll up is still working well,  used May-Oct. in New England.  We transported our family of 5 to dinghy docks and while crowded, never felt overloaded. 
Brian McPhillips  1988 #584  M25XP

pbyrne

Ended up finding a Highfield 260UL with a mercury 6hp in very good condition in my backyard.  Gave it a spin, and well, with 3 adults, it's not the fastest thing in the world...
2000 Catalina 34 MK II #1534

waughoo

Quote from: pbyrne on May 17, 2023, 09:09:01 PM
Ended up finding a Highfield 260UL with a mercury 6hp in very good condition in my backyard.

Wow... that is some back yard you have there.  I only find weeds in my back yard.
Alex - Seattle, WA
91 mk1.5 #1120
Std rig w/wing keel
Universal M35
Belafonte

rmjohns

I have that same setup, the UL260 with the Mercury 6hp and yeah with just my wife and I it wants to plane but it just can't quite get there.  I bought the 6hp for the weight carrying it around, my prior setup had a 9.9hp 2 stroke and it was heavy. The 6hp was still a little awkward to get off the dingy in the water so I also added a lift, though I went with the forespar nova lift. It makes lifting the outboard so easy I now wish I had gone with the 9hp motor.  C'est la vie.

Rob
Rob

1998 Catalina 34 Mkii 1390 - Miss Allie
New Bern, NC

pbyrne

Quote from: rmjohns on May 18, 2023, 09:17:14 AM
I have that same setup, the UL260 with the Mercury 6hp and yeah with just my wife and I it wants to plane but it just can't quite get there.  I bought the 6hp for the weight carrying it around, my prior setup had a 9.9hp 2 stroke and it was heavy. The 6hp was still a little awkward to get off the dingy in the water so I also added a lift, though I went with the forespar nova lift. It makes lifting the outboard so easy I now wish I had gone with the 9hp motor.  C'est la vie.

Rob

Yeah, I've read somethings about changing the prop to something with a different pitch (sorry I don't know what it is), and adding hydrofoils.  Not sure if you need both?  There's a few YT's on this topic, I just haven't investigated.

My problem is that I have some beefy davits already, and I'm scratching my head how to add an engine hoist, or maybe just use the davits somehow?  Do you have davits with the hoist?
2000 Catalina 34 MK II #1534

pbyrne

Rob, one more question.  Assuming you have davits, what's your setup for connecting the 3 hardpoints in the dinghy to the davits?
2000 Catalina 34 MK II #1534

Ron Hill

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pby & Rob : My 3 hard points were easy to make - I took the inside nuts off the towing eye in the bow and replaced it with a SS eye-nut. Did the same on the transom of my RIB with 2 more eye-nuts..

Between myself and wife we total just under 300 lbs. and I have a 5 hp 2 cycle (Nisson) that easily gets up on plane!!  I assume that your 6hp (Mercury) is a heavy 4 cycle??

A few thoughts 
Ron, Apache #788

pbyrne

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Quote from: Ron Hill on May 18, 2023, 01:52:26 PM
pby & Rob : My 3 hard points were easy to make - I took the inside nuts off the towing eye in the bow and replaced it with a SS eye-nut. Did the same on the transom of my RIB with 2 more eye-nuts..

Between myself and wife we total just under 300 lbs. and I have a 5 hp 2 cycle (Nisson) that easily gets up on plane!!  I assume that your 6hp (Mercury) is a 4 cycle??

A few thoughts

Ron, luckily I had welded tabs that I can use 3 inside, and 2 on the exterior of the transom up at the top.  Do you connect directly to the eyes or do you have some kind of bridle that connects to the davit lines?

All up I figure 330lbs for wife and I, and 134lbs for dinghy and engine for a total of 464lbs.  You'd think that would be okay, but...it feels like there's something is not quite right.  With 3 adults, up to 80% throttle the speed increases, and from there to 100% no change in RPM or speed.  Engine runs clean though, and starts on 1-2 pulls.  But that's what people were saying to change the prop pitch... maybe stock it's to market  top end for one person, and real world, you need a different pitch to let it rev out...
2000 Catalina 34 MK II #1534

rmjohns

Ron, yes 4 stroke 6hp mercury, bought it new last year.

pby, again, your scenario matches mine exactly. Same weight on the dingy. It powers up nicely to about 80% and then it just can't get over the bow wave.

Let me know if you get a different prop. I'd be curious if that makes a difference.

Rob
Rob

1998 Catalina 34 Mkii 1390 - Miss Allie
New Bern, NC