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Bill Shreeves

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Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« on: October 24, 2022, 01:31:04 PM »

Thinking about installing 1-1/4" aluminum T-Track on port and std toe rail.  What length 5/16" screws should I use?
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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2022, 01:45:19 PM »

Screws?? I would think you use through bolts? Which is why I have not done it on mine. Too hard.
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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2022, 01:53:29 PM »

You can through bolt from the top of the toe rail?  I guess I need to take a close look from the interior at the joint.  Sounds like some really demanding boat yoga...
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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2022, 02:16:29 PM »

Guys : Does anyone know how the factory installed that genoa toe rail??  I'm not too sure if it is thru bolted or not?  Maybe a call down to Warren Tandy in Florida might help?  @ (727) 544- 6681.

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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2022, 09:12:57 PM »

I can't see a situation where sheetmetal screws could EVER hold the load being asked of that T track.  I have it on my boat and would be extremely surprised if I didn't find bolts and washers underneath.
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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2022, 10:26:32 PM »

Every Catalina I looked at a few years ago, the outboard track was thru bolted. I added a block and diamond pad eye by the exhaust fan cowls port and starboard instead.
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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2022, 02:15:36 AM »

... they are screwed. I just put the front feet for my arch on it a few weeks ago. the (rear) nuts are to starboard next to the aft cabin cupboard (I cut a hole in there to get at them) and to port behind the engine control panel.

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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2022, 09:12:23 AM »

Holgar — Are you saying the jib track is attached with bolts and nuts or is it screwed on with self-tapping screws? I am not sure if your google translate got this issue confused?
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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2022, 11:25:46 PM »

... bolts and nuts!
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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2022, 11:36:14 PM »

there, at the rear end of the rail, I screwed the foot on (bolted through):
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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2022, 07:20:01 AM »

Guys : Does anyone know how the factory installed that genoa toe rail??  I'm not too sure if it is thru bolted or not?  Maybe a call down to Warren Tandy in Florida might help?  @ (727) 544- 6681.

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Ron, I am the original owner and the boat came with the outside optional genoa toe rail. The toe rail is thru bolted with washers and nuts on the inside!
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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2022, 09:33:42 AM »

 :thumb: Thx B
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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2022, 07:46:26 PM »

Nuts and Bolts it is.  Now I just need to see how accessible it is, or isn't, to do that....
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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2022, 02:50:52 PM »

Bill : Now that the deck portion of the C34 has been mated to the hull portion - I'm afraid that your accessibility to the under side of the toe rail is VERY limited!!   :cry4`

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Re: Install toe rail 1-1/4" T-Track
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2022, 03:29:47 PM »

The port side toe rail can likely be done, albeit with a challenge.  The stbd side has the aft cabin liner covering the toe rail area for most of the run making that near impossible without cutting the hull liner for access.
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