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billandalita

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Autopilot controller ST-4000
« on: May 24, 2021, 07:29:51 AM »

My ST-4000 autopilot Controller stopped working and is also discolored and difficult to see through the lens.  Can someone tell me if I can replace it with a newer Controller?  How about a  Raymarine  P70S Autopilot controller?  If so, is the installation fairly easy, perhaps a wire by wire correspondence to the controller?
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Bill Small
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Re: Autopilot controller ST-4000
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2021, 08:03:14 AM »

The st4000 controller IS the autopilot and has all the brainbox built into the control head.  The p70s and other control heads are simply a physical display that control the autopilot's brain box.  To restore function of your existing setup, you would need to find another working st4000 autopilot control.
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Re: Autopilot controller ST-4000
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2021, 08:15:07 AM »

You can send the head back to Raymarine they will replace the screen if that is the problem.  Priced it about 3 years ago and was about $175 plus shipping
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Re: Autopilot controller ST-4000
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2021, 11:11:31 AM »

I got a new LCD on ebay and it was easy to replace and the display was like new afterward.
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Re: Autopilot controller ST-4000
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2021, 07:06:24 AM »

Thank for edifying me on the differences between the old ST4000 and the newer Raymarine autopilot models.  The current (ST-4000) autopilot does not work at all, and is also very hard to see.  So, perhaps it will be a question of the next best steps forward to get a working autopilot.  Any suggestions will be appreciated.
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Re: Autopilot controller ST-4000
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2021, 08:40:05 AM »

Raymarine makes a new version of the wheel pilot which uses their new sensor core.  It has a gyro built in along with a few other sensors.  This replaces the fluxgate compass and as I understand, does a MUCH better job of sterring a course.  If you want to keep it simple, that would be my recommendation.
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Re: Autopilot controller ST-4000
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2021, 10:00:17 AM »

I had the same display issue with the ST4000 and I purchased a complete new wheelpilot kit, the iTC-5 transducer converter, and brought everything into a SeaTalkng backbone.  https://www.defender.com/category.jsp?name=wheel-pilot-systems&id=2028710&path=-1|17|2028687

I've since bought but not yet installed a rudder position transducer to try to improve system performance. It's better than ST4000 but not much. One thing is for sure, you must balance your sails or it will struggle and start zigzagging a wider and wider course. :)
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Re: Autopilot controller ST-4000
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2021, 01:30:04 PM »

If you want to keep it simple, install a CPT Autopilot.
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Re: Autopilot controller ST-4000
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2021, 01:48:46 PM »

The rudder possition sensor is quite necessary for the newer auto pilots to be accurate.  I cant say it makes sense to run one without it (though I am aware the st4000 could opperate without one).
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Re: Autopilot controller ST-4000
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2021, 02:18:45 PM »

The rudder possition sensor is quite necessary for the newer auto pilots to be accurate.  I cant say it makes sense to run one without it (though I am aware the st4000 could opperate without one).

That's what I thought as well, but it didn't come with the kit and instructions stated it wasn't necessary, so I gave it a try... Installing the rudder reference on a MKII is difficult, so not looking forward to it.  :(
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Re: Autopilot controller ST-4000
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2021, 02:27:25 PM »

CPT Autopilot doesnít need a rudder position sensor.
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