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Re: Well that stinks...(like diesel)
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2020, 08:13:53 AM »

Jonathan,

Congrats on your new(to you)C34, it's great boat you won't be sorry, well let's say you won't be sorry very often.

Just remember your boat is 32yrs old, this won't be the last thing you'll have to replace. With winter setting in you have time to inspect and really get to know your boat.
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Re: Well that stinks...(like diesel)
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2020, 08:44:41 AM »

Thank you!

I actually bought an old boat on purpose to force me to become acquainted with its systems and maintenance.

The water system needs work. One of the tank valves has a very slow leak, and much of the work done by the previous owner was quick and economic. I keep finding small leaks and questionable choices. Planning a new water manifold for spring.

The bilge pump was connected without a fuse using wrapped wires and electrical tape. I am going to replace it with a higher volume pump electronic sensing and new hose in the spring.
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Re: Well that stinks...(like diesel)
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2020, 10:21:29 AM »



The water system needs work. One of the tank valves has a very slow leak, and much of the work done by the previous owner was quick and economic. I keep finding small leaks and questionable choices. Planning a new water manifold for spring.

I had a leak from one of my two plastic valves.  I replaced it with a metal valve.

But then I took the old one apart and found that all it needed was a new O ring.

You might want to investigate your leak before you do all that work.

Good luck.
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Re: Well that stinks...(like diesel)
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2020, 10:56:49 AM »

Yeah I thought about that too. But the plumbing under the sink is a mess.
And it's experience I want.
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Re: Well that stinks...(like diesel)
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2020, 02:13:23 PM »

jonathan : Look in the C34 Mainsheet tech note and WiKi as there are numerous articles and posts on changing/improving the plumbing under the sink.  Especially the sink drains!!

A thought - Good Luck on your "new" 1988 C34   :clap
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Re: Well that stinks...(like diesel)
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2020, 08:15:47 AM »

Jonathan,

I'm with Stu one this one, I really like the plastic valves, plastic is much more resistant to the marine environment and much less likely to freeze up, corrode, or disintegrate like metal valves can sometimes do, especially if you don't regularly exercise them.

Stu,

Good to know these valves can be rebuilt, I didn't know that and I've never seen any replacements for sale anywhere.
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Re: Well that stinks...(like diesel)
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2020, 01:33:50 PM »

Jonathan : A number of us have change out those plastic gate water valves under the galley sink with plastic ball valves. 

Much simpler and easier to operate - so some plastic valves still work!!    :thumb:

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Re: Well that stinks...(like diesel)
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2020, 03:37:21 PM »

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Stu,

Good to know these valves can be rebuilt, I didn't know that and I've never seen any replacements for sale anywhere.

It's not so much as "rebuild" as it is just simply taking part of it apart.

Under the actuator (the wheel you turn) is the stem and then a plastic nut  (the bonnet) over the body of the valve.  Just back off the bonnet nut and it will slide up the stem enough to the handle to expose the O ring.  Remove and replace.  It's rather simple.

My local ACE hardware store was really great, well stocked with all sorts of boat gear, like O rings and stainless hardware fasteners.  Here, I've found Home Hardware to be very good, and easier than Home Depot to find stuff 'cuz the staff is much more helpful.

Good luck.
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Re: Well that stinks...(like diesel) plus Plastic Gate Valves
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2020, 04:28:13 AM »

Unfortunately, my Ace experience wasn’t so good. Bought new plastic valves and barbed fittings, and when I testing the fittings for fit with hoses, they were too big even though stamped as 1/2”. So beware! I ultimately got bronze valves and fittings that match the hoses. To be installed in the spring.

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Re: Well that stinks...(like diesel) plus Plastic Gate Valves
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2020, 07:08:01 AM »

Stu,

I thought taking something apart, replacing faulty parts, then reassembling was the definition of rebuild, in any case still good information, the kind which seems to be in abundance on this board.       
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Re: Well that stinks...(like diesel) plus Plastic Gate Valves
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2020, 11:35:54 AM »

Kevin, the reason I wrote: "It's not so much as "rebuild" as it is just simply taking part of it apart." is that it really isn't a rebuild.

I'd call replacing the seals in the raw water pump a rebuild.  In this case, it's simply a matter of unscrewing one nut, and replacing an O ring.  It doesn't involve removing or replacing hard to access parts or more than one simple thing.  That's all.  Just a matter of "degree of difficulty," like in gymnastics.  :D

I just wanted to explain to the group how really easy it is.

Ed, sorry to hear about your experience.  I usually test fit stuff before I leave the store.
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