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Genoa Sheet Turning (Cheek) Block Maintenance
« on: August 24, 2020, 08:47:40 AM »

I have a 2001 Catalina 34 sailboat that has Garhauer Genoa sheet turning (Cheek) blocks (picture attached).  I did not find the identical block on the Garhauer website but it appears that the FB-03 is equivalent.

When I sheet in the genoa on the port side the block squeals as it turns.    Is there any maintenance that I can do to fix this?    Can I remove the center screw and roller to lubricate it without removing the block?   Has anyone seen and addressed this problem?
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Re: Genoa Sheet Turning (Cheek) Block Maintenance
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2020, 10:51:35 AM »

Go conservative initially.
ALL blocks and sheaves, in fact just about anything moving, benefits from a periodic (depending on climate, weather, use) treatment of Teflon based dry lube. You donít need the expensive marine brand, everyone brands make one - 3 in one, WD40, blaster, super lube.  DRY is a misnomer, the spray is wet but the vehicle evaporates leaving the dry lubricant (ptfe) that doesnít get sticky and capture bad stuff. Typically with the spray wand I donít need to disassemble anything.  The newbie crew got the job to spray every moving part on race night.

A caution on GhM ball bearing blocks - some (many??most?) donít have captive sheaves so extra caution is needed when disassembling a unit lest you end up with balls skittling to and fro.  Such as the deck organizers (how do I know this?)  Thatís opposed to GhM masthead sheaves that (for obvious reason) are captive.
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Re: Genoa Sheet Turning (Cheek) Block Maintenance
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2020, 02:45:31 PM »

Dave : You can try to squirt in a shot of SuperLub (has Teflon).  If it is not a BB block you just might have to live with the squeak!!

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Re: Genoa Sheet Turning (Cheek) Block Maintenance
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2020, 03:30:12 PM »

I would first try flushing well with water.  It may be lint? from the sheet.  Would take line off and spin the sheave while flushing with a hose.  If that didn't work I'd take the axle bolt out inspect for wear and lube with teflon. 

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Re: Genoa Sheet Turning (Cheek) Block Maintenance
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2020, 08:32:22 AM »

Thanks, I will try those suggestions before I take any other action.   

I called Garhauer Marine.  They stated that maintenance on the block would be require removing and disassembling the block.   Since the replacement (FB-03 SB) only costs $97, they recommend replacing the existing block with the new one rather than repairing the old one.  If I need to go this route, I will need to confirm that the new block is a direct replacement.  It looks similar with the same length and width.   But, I have not yet confirmed hole placement and diameter, etc.     BTW, Garhauer Marine refers to these blocks as "Foot Blocks" where as the C34 Manual Deck Plan diagram called them "Cheek Blocks".
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Re: Genoa Sheet Turning (Cheek) Block Maintenance
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2020, 09:50:06 AM »

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they recommend replacing the existing block with the new one rather than repairing the old one.

If you do, look into adding on top a camlock block for the furling line.  I did that years ago, using another brand and making an adaptor.  I believe Garhuer  now makes one.   It was a big improvement over the set up that was on the boat to furl the genoa. 

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Re: Genoa Sheet Turning (Cheek) Block Maintenance
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2020, 11:21:16 AM »


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If you do, look into adding on top a camlock block for the furling line.  I did that years ago, using another brand and making an adaptor.  I believe Garhuer  now makes one.   It was a big improvement over the set up that was on the boat to furl the genoa. 

The camlock on the cheek block is a great idea, any pics to show how it attaches?
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Re: Genoa Sheet Turning (Cheek) Block Maintenance
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2020, 03:34:49 PM »

There's a discussion and my pictures are here.

https://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,10042.msg76993.html#msg76993

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Re: Genoa Sheet Turning (Cheek) Block Maintenance
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2020, 04:40:27 PM »

thanks!
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Re: Genoa Sheet Turning (Cheek) Block Maintenance
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2020, 10:28:43 AM »

When I went to flush and lubricate the turning block, I found that it turned with no issues or sound.   Further checking showed that the source of the noise was the Ronstat Genoa Car.  Amazing how when I was previously sailing my ears could not identify the true source of the noise. 

Many years ago I mistakenly left the original Garhauer Genoa cars on the boat in the track over the winter and they disappeared. The Ronstat Genoa cars were available at a local marine store when I needed of a quick replacement in the  spring.   After I flushed the noisy car with water it seems to be OK.   But, I have ordered and now received Garhauer Genoa cars from Catalina Direct to put on the next time I go sailing.
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Re: Genoa Sheet Turning (Cheek) Block Maintenance
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2020, 03:07:04 PM »

Dave : I am assuming that your existing block is NOT Ball Bearing?  If you replace it I'd definitely make sure that the new turning block is BB.
Not too sure about the necessity of the cam cleat?!?

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Re: Genoa Sheet Turning (Cheek) Block Maintenance
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2020, 05:02:09 PM »

Ron: Yes, I failed to mention that the Ronstat genoa cars do not have ball bearings.  The Garhauer cars do have ball bearings.
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