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Noah

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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2020, 05:16:43 PM »

If you go for that transmission you might as well shorten your shaft at the same time. Minimal added cost and would also be an opportunity to inspect, polish and true. Ideally the prop should be 1in. behind the strut.
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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2020, 05:22:48 PM »

Dh

What are the particulars - model # or MPS item # etc?
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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2020, 07:48:40 AM »

It is a Baysan BMT-M30-2.00.  If I have the shaft shortened, I would have to have the boat hauled, which I don't want to do at this point.  Maybe when It is hauled for the winter.
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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2020, 12:05:26 PM »

I replaced the transmission on my 2002. Yes, the aft cabin must be empty, the "box" can be easily removed with 4 or 6 screws. Coupling disconnected and the shaft pushed back for clearance. Linkage disconnected and then the transmission bolts are accessed with a socket wrench and extension. Job is easy, unless any fasteners are corroded or frozen. It probably took me 4 hours total to do the job. Replace the damper at the same time.
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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2020, 02:51:28 PM »

dhagen : Rule of thumb - the prop distance from the strut should be one shaft diameter (1")

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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2020, 07:46:06 PM »

dhag, I replaced my damper plate, tranny (actually a gearbox not a tranny I'm told), coupling, stuffing box, cutlass prop & shaft myself a few years ago.  The gearbox wasn't that hard.  Most everyone will tell you to always replace the damper plate when you remove the gearbox.  The cost will likely be all parts because it takes little time to actually replace and I'd highly recommend it while they're in there.  Also expect to pay labor for aligning the engine. If the gearbox is only longer and not lower there shouldn't be much if it was reasonably aligned before.  If it hasn't been aligned in a long time it might take more time because the mounts settle over years I'm told.
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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2020, 07:38:47 AM »

I removed the cabinetry yesterday. It was more than 4 screws, more like 8. The key trick is trying to figure out which eight!   And then getting at them through the opening in the top.
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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2020, 06:52:52 AM »

It turns out the damper plate had broken into 3 pieces.  Replaced it and it is good to go.
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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2020, 07:45:52 AM »

Several posts on damper plate problems lately. Iím wondering if this is a problem I need to start saving for. :cry4` What causes the damper plate to fail, or break into multiple pieces? How many engine hours do you have? Thanks for the help.
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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2020, 02:33:54 PM »

Guys : When I replaced the damper plate on my old M25XP, I did it as a "just in case" as I had everything out of the boat and was replacing the transmission (Hurth100). That old damper plate was working just fine.  That old engine had almost 5,000 hours on it!!

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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2020, 02:43:30 PM »

Guys : You can shorten the shaft while the boat is in the water, BUT you are cutting away part or all of the keyway!!!

When I did that I had a flexible coupling and didn't use the keyway!



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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2020, 04:34:43 PM »

My engine has about 1000 hours on it, but it is a 2001. My understanding is that on the M35B, it is just a piece of plastic. My guess is after 20 years, the plastic just got brittle and cracked.
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Re: Transmission failure
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2020, 02:31:37 PM »

dha : No it is not just a piece of plastic!!
 
I'd describe it as an elastomeric connection that the shaft fits into.  On the M25/25XP engines it "looked" like a old clutch plate.
Maybe Ken or Mainsail can give a better description.

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