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C34 Mark II in mast furling mast step cracks
« on: September 16, 2019, 05:45:25 PM »

Just wondering if anyone with in mast furling has had problems with factory mast step cracking. Mine has cracked at both bolt holes. I sent photos to the mast and step manufacturer, and was told the step as manufactured has four bolt holding it in place. Mine has been modified....I assume by Catalina at manufacture. Cut marks are clearly seen on the step itself. Catalina tech rep said he has not heard of any problems on the 34ís. Would be grateful to hear and see what experience and fixes others have had.
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Re: C34 Mark II in mast furling mast step cracks
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2019, 04:20:14 AM »

Shamrock has a furling main, the step may not be different from the standard mast.  Will check on mine today.  Had my mast down last year and all was good.  Only problem with mine was no drainage at mast to step, after a rain would leak for days on the cabin deck.  When the mast was down I drilled a hole low on the mast, problem fixed.  Would like to see pictures of your mast step crack.
Also suggest you add boat info to signature.  See what others have done.
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Re: C34 Mark II in mast furling mast step cracks
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2019, 08:32:25 AM »

Yes the in-mast furling is a different setup. I will try to add a pic.
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Re: C34 Mark II in mast furling mast step cracks
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2019, 12:31:12 PM »

Here are my pictures.  There are 2 through bolts that are inside the mast, fore and aft for a total of 4.  Can see them from the cabin.  As most of the forces are in compression, it wouldn't keep me from sailing.  IMHO  I'd change it when the mast was stepped for other work. 
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Re: C34 Mark II in mast furling mast step cracks
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2019, 12:32:47 PM »

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Re: C34 Mark II in mast furling mast step cracks
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2019, 12:38:01 PM »

form cabin looking up
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Re: C34 Mark II in mast furling mast step cracks
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2019, 07:21:05 PM »

Thanks for posting the pics, Jim. I was thinking the nuts in the cabin top were for the compression post. I can see the crack on one side extends under the mast so I have scheduled to have the mast pulled on Thursday. Will post what is found.
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Re: C34 Mark II in mast furling mast step cracks
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2020, 04:54:35 PM »

I just noticed the same problem on my 2003 MKII mast step.  Was it easy to order a new piece?
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Just wondering if anyone with in mast furling has had problems with factory mast step cracking. Mine has cracked at both bolt holes. I sent photos to the mast and step manufacturer, and was told the step as manufactured has four bolt holding it in place. Mine has been modified....I assume by Catalina at manufacture. Cut marks are clearly seen on the step itself. Catalina tech rep said he has not heard of any problems on the 34ís. Would be grateful to hear and see what experience and fixes others have had.
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Re: C34 Mark II in mast furling mast step cracks
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2020, 06:08:52 PM »

Scott, I am including pics of the original manufacturers(Sparcraft) mast step, and the one that was removed from my boat. Rather than modify a new one it was decided was to mill a complete new step from a piece of g10. Unfortunately, I don't have a pic of it and the boat has regrettably been sold. Sure do miss her. Steve
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Re: C34 Mark II in mast furling mast step cracks
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2020, 11:49:17 AM »

Pardon my ignorance, what is G10 and where would one go to have it milled into a replica? Also, is it costly?     I have thought cutting the corners on their replacement would be easier?
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Scott, I am including pics of the original manufacturers(Sparcraft) mast step, and the one that was removed from my boat. Rather than modify a new one it was decided was to mill a complete new step from a piece of g10. Unfortunately, I don't have a pic of it and the boat has regrettably been sold. Sure do miss her. Steve
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Re: C34 Mark II in mast furling mast step cracks
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2020, 12:45:52 PM »

G10 is fiberglass and epoxy laminate that is highly compressed and I believe is heat cured. It looks like thick plastic sheet. The mast step, as designed, was supposed to be bolted at each corner. Modifying it by cutting the corners required the redrilling of mounting holes on either side of the mast. I assume there was flex fore and aft -faulty rig tuning or poor design?- and that's why it cracked at the mounting holes, but really not sure. Maybe just spending it life on San Francisco Bay took its toll. I've seen one other with the same issue, though not as severe as mine. It had in mast furling as well.
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