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Wow! Well, I almost have the whole thing traced through. The depth sounder and knot log go:

  • To port and aft, like I guessed, into the port hanging locker.
  • From there, they go, like KeelsonGraham mentioned into the space behind the port settee. There's a glassed in PVC pipe that carries these wires aft.
  • Then they exit that PVC towards the aft end of the port settee and go up into the electrical compartment. There's a piece of trim that hangs down from the top of the electrical compartment. All of the wires are tucked behind this trim.
  • They travel aft all the way across the electrical compartment to... somewhere. I can't figure out where they go. I've removed the trim in the head, but not the cabinet yet.
  • From there, they appear in the aft cockpit locker and traverse the back of that
[li] Then they *appear* to go into the aft port locker and then *probably* into the posts for the Navpod

I will update this as I get more information and continue to trace these wires. The weird thing about the routing through the head is that I can't see any wires going into the almost looks like there's possibly a space behind the head??? Anyway, I'll leave this as a reference to anyone else trying this. I'm sure that I'll need to update this once I actually run the cable rather than just trying to trace it.

On our boat, both of these instruments are just forward of the bottom compartment in the v-berth. These wires go to port and disappear behind an insert. I can't tell where they go. Does anyone else have this setup? Any idea where they go on the port side of the boat?

I mean, logic would say that the wires are behind the port settee, nav station, hanging locker, and head, but I'm trying to pull new wires and want to get an idea of what I'm in for before I start it.

Thanks for your help!

2001 C34MkII #1488
Are there any references on how to grease them?

Quote from: Ron Hill on April 06, 2022, 02:24:46 PM
Guys : The Marelon valves are sturdy, but it is one of those items that need to be "greased" every year; so that they stay easily tunable!!

A thought
Main Message Board / Re: Refitting C34 MKII
April 14, 2022, 10:34:02 AM
I've powder her for two years now. I like sailing more than doing upgrades, but I think this is the year...

Quote from: rmjohns on April 12, 2022, 06:16:26 AM
    How long have you owned the boat? I'm coming up on two years now and I've done most of the bigger items, except maybe the standing rigging.  I'm hoping now it's just maintenance and sailing.

Main Message Board / Re: Refitting C34 MKII
April 14, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
This is a really good idea. Thanks for the suggestion!

Quote from: rmjohns on April 11, 2022, 11:36:05 AM
I ended up creating an online trello board for all my work items and categorizing them as must do, would like to do, next haul out, in progress and done. Helps me keep them all organized, documented and prioritized and being online, I can update it from home or the boat.

Plus I have a history of when I did what.
Main Message Board / Refitting C34 MKII
April 11, 2022, 04:55:26 AM
Hmm... so at what point do "spring maintenance upgrades" become a refit?!?

It seems like everything I touch leads to more ideas for a project. For instance, some ham-handed lunk (me) broke the head sink drain adapter (which proved nigh impossible to find) so I got myself a whole sink drain assembly instead. I justified buying the whole thing by saying that the old one was starting to rust anyway. Of course the new one didn't fit right away. Of course the old caulk was impossible to remove. Regardless, it turned out so nice that it made me realize that I need to replace the faucet as well, because it's pretty much corroded at this point. Which lead me on a goose chase to find a decent looking shower faucet combo. Lots of nice people on the internet have made suggestions - saying that RV faucets are the same and much cheaper. But in a couple hours of searching (when I was supposed to be working), turned up nothing other than either wall mounted units or ones that had a "diverter". But nothing that resembles what we have now. As they say, "More research is indicated..."

While shopping for the sink drain, I also thought about the malfunctioning masthead wind sensor that had to be replaced and was thinking about how borked the whole electrical system has been since we bought her two years ago. All of the gauges were off by a lot, including the tach (how do you get *that* wrong?). I did some minor adjustments to those to get them back into spec. The knot log has never read the correct speed (despite my best attempts at googling) and the masthead sensor hasn't moved since the sea trial. While I'd love to blame the PO, they're our "back door" neighbor in the marina and I just can't believe that they would swap out working instruments for bad after the sale. Also the panel volt meter is completely messed up. I can't figure out why it's reading so wrong sometimes and completely correct other times. It doesn't make any sense. I need to research what else I could do here, but when an expensive meter from the yard (Fluke 177) read 12.6 on the bateries and the panel meter reads 11.8, you know something's wrong. the obvious solution is to check the wiring and replace the meter, but is there a better way? I don't know yet.

All this was running through my head at the chandlery when suddenly a complete i70 kit (wind, speed, depth, itc5, and display) ended up in my cart and brought it home ( the masthead sensor was going to be $700, but the whole kit is $1100. What a bargain!). I guess that's going on the to-do list. The 20 year old charger is also on its way out and that's going to have to be replaced, too. The nice people at Guest were willing to take my call, but not able to help.

Last year I took out the aircon to "fix" it. The PO said that it just needed a new "printed circuit board", but when I opened up the control box, there were no boards in there! After two months of banging my head against the wall, trying to figure out what part of the electronics were bad (the Ocean Breeze people were very helpful and patient) I discovered the latching high pressure switch had tripped. In my defense, there's no way to push the button without taking the whole thing out first. One push of the button and it was working again. However in removing it, I noticed that the bracket that had been fabricated for the unit was held in place with some faring compound - which had failed. It's dirty and grimy in there and the wooden bracket is still bare wood. A good epoxy paint for the bracket and some elbow grease in the hanging locker where the aircon is located is needed to clean it all out. Then I'll add some proper fiberglass tabbing to the bracket so that it stays in place this time.

Then there's the battery management that needs to be taken care of. There are no bus bars for the battery connections in the house battery compartment, leading to a mess of connections in the compartment. Plus I need to replace the battery hold down for the starting battery, since needing to cut that off after it became completely jammed.

Since I took the stick down to have a look at the masthead wind sensor, I might as well call a rigger. As near as I know, the standing rigging hasn't been replaced since she was new. In 2001. That won't be expensive, right? And it's not difficult to get a hold of a rigger in the middle of the spring, right?

And then there's the issue of the autopilot, which is sitting in the workshop but hasn't been installed. Oh, and then the sails are also original.

I've owned a boat before, this isn't my first rodeo (but it is my second! Ha!) All of a sudden I'm realizing how much she needs. Or doesn't, I suppose. If I wasn't "floating" in a parking lot right now, this could all be solved by just throwing off the lines and dealing with what I have with me instead of worrying about what's coming.

So all of this to ask, am I 50% through my spring maintenance, or am I 10% through a refit?  :shock:

Whoa. Seriously? I thought that was part of the wiring standard. Go figure.

Someone from the C28 IA thought that the hull had been hit by lightning at some point and they replaced the wiring. Good to know that wasn't the case?

I ripped it all out and replaced it with the right stuff on the C28. Now you're telling me I'm going to have to do the same with my C34!

I did a similar repair on my C28, and it's very satisfying. I went with the mounted blue sea connectors instead of the ones you used here. Some idea, though. I know that you'd only disconnect the wiring harness in the engine bay if you were going to disconnect the engine, but I felt like it gave me a way to isolate things if I had to troubleshoot. Never needed to, though. My biggest issue was that the harness had clearly been changed before because the wiring wasn't tinned marine wire.
I think that, at this point, you don't really know what's true from mechanic #1 or #2. It's possible one or both were somehow incompetent or unqualified. Start with a new mechanic and only describe the symptoms. You may have to go backwards to go forwards.
Main Message Board / Re: 34 Mk II wiring access
March 16, 2022, 03:39:03 AM
Can you post your success/failures of running wiring through here if you get a chance? I tried doing this last year and ran out of time and patience.
Main Message Board / Re: Fairclough group buy?
August 26, 2021, 07:38:17 AM
You are correct on all counts. The side door isn't needed, but is convenient for getting some things on and off the boat. There's no discount for removing it, so I'll keep it. I had a C28 MkI (looks like a C34 Mk1.5, but smaller) and entered and existed from the stern. It does get tedious tying up the stern, especially when it's below zero and the lines are snow covered. The nice thing with the swim ladder and a wing keel is (if you can get it down) you don't need a ladder.

I would imagine you can just but a new cover and keep the existing frame. Might save you a little.

I also have a toe-rail cover that the PO bought that I'm selling. I don't like it, but that doesn't mean it's not useful for someone.
Main Message Board / Fairclough group buy?
August 25, 2021, 03:07:16 PM
Purchasing a Fairclough cover for our C34 MKII and was wondering if anyone else would be interested.

Price was quoted to me as $4005 with the ability to store with the mast up or down. If you don't store with your mast up, it's about $750 less ($3250 ish). Price is good until 9/1. They also have the ability to add different features like extra doors, accommodations for dinghy davits, motor davits, radar masts, and other things.

In case you're wondering I have no affiliation with Fairclough other than I really liked the cover I had for my C28.
Main Message Board / Re: Boat insurance
June 03, 2021, 07:24:11 AM
Quote from: SailingJerry on June 02, 2021, 05:20:09 AM
Has anyone used AllState? I got a very low proposal offer, but is it too good to be true?
Any other suggestions?

Allstate is terrible insurance. There's a reason their rates are so low. I had them for 22 years for home/auto/umbrella and one claim *doubled* my premium.
Main Message Board / Re: Honda 2000 generator
May 21, 2021, 03:39:31 AM
Quote from: jmcdonald on May 20, 2021, 07:01:54 PM
Yes Noah, he uses the port locker.
I would think you would want to have some additional venting if it was
stored with gas in it. I had never seen a 2000 in a port locker before and
thought it was interesting.

When looking for a MkII over the last few years, I saw this done in probably a quarter of the boats we looked at. I'm not sure that it's the best idea, but it looks fairly common.
Quote from: Medved on May 21, 2021, 03:01:47 AM
Quote from: Noah on May 20, 2021, 05:28:21 PM
I have a Flexofold as pictured. Jim has Max Prop.

Sorry, mixed them up. Noah, any advice on where to buy flexofold these days? I did some googling and did not see much.

Reach out to them directly. Earlier this year I got a quote for a Flexofold 3 blade. They said it would take 3 days to make it and 3 days shipping from Denmark to the East Coast of the US