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Bought and installed the new fuel pump.
No change! Waste of time and money.
Thought I had the fix. Crap!!!
Pulled the air intake/filter thing and tried the engine. No Change.
Changed the Racor again. No change.
I also opened up the bleed valve on the engine at full throttle to make sure there was excess fuel. There was.
I can't think of what next. Only thing that I haven't done is checked the exhaust riser.
The exhaust water blows out vigorously so I doubt that is restricted. Any suggestions on how to check the riser given how awkward that would be?
Any other thoughts?
I'm desperate!

I found the Facet Gold Flo FEP 87SV at a local automotive supply chain (Princess Auto) today at a good price after struggling to find one online that was in stock in Canada. They had 2 on the shelf!
Go figure!
Will try the install tomorrow.
Fingers crossed after the boat really struggled to make it back to the dock Sunday

So the more expensive would be the gold flow?
I read all those posts but its confusing as the different pumps are often referred to as "these pumps"or"those pumps".

I'm not set on the cube. I just want a reliable pump.
The local napa store has the posi- flow (610-1051) which I think is cylindrical in stock so leaning that way but am open to suggestions.

Before I buy the new pump does anyone have any recomendations or remorse after buying either the NAPA 610-1051, the Pro13SV or the FAC 40105 CUBE model?

All good thoughts
I just did a 4 hour run at full throttle and it runs well, just doesn't have the top end. The last 20% of throttle doesn't change anything.
I am thinking that I will change the fuel pump first after hearing that the ticking doesn't mean the pump is healthy. (Thanks Roland).
Even if that takes care of it I will pull the injectors and have a look at the glow plugs as they are both high on my suspect list.
I've read up on pulling the injectors but know nothing about pulling glow plugs.
Thanks for all your thoughts.

Free dinghy hoist....use the halyard.
Tie a piece of line around the engine to use as a handle, attach main halyard, raise it a few inches to lift it off the bracket, then push it out away from the boat and walk it around to the side of the boat. Hold it out firmly so as to not hit the side of your boat. It will slowly drop down like a pendulum. If you have your dinghy tied midship it should perfectly come down to the level of the dinghy transom.
Do a test run to see how it matches up and make adjustments accordingly.

Glow plugs? I can't be sure they are working properly but the volt meter does dip significantly when engaged.
Both fuel filters changed and I checked the filter in the facet fuel pump.
Took off the air filter It's clear and made no difference.
I think the throttle opens until it hits the nut acting as a governor. I've looked at that but will double check that today.

Thanks for your thoughts Ron.
I've done the wiring upgrade. It turns over with lots of power but doesn't fire up. Seems like a fuel issue???
I have not done anything to the injectors....ever. Does it sound like an injector issue to you?

Yes I did check for that. It has slipped out before.
Thanks for the suggestion though.

Looking for some thoughts and group wisdom regarding my engine's poor behavior.
I have a 25XP. Owned over 25 years.
It has always run the same. It's always been hard to start. Full throttle in gear has always been 2600RPM pushing boat at approx. 6.5 knots depending on condition of the bottom.
Full throttle in neutral has been 3200 RPM.
Took her out for a spin recently. Still hard to start, full throttle in neutral is 2800 and in gear 2100. boat speed 5.4 knots. Had this problem at end of last year but it might be a bit worse. Not sure.
Something is definitely wrong.
Hauled last year so shouldn't be the problem. Fuel pump ticks away as usual and I have been told (or read) that these old pumps either work or not...not in between.
No big smoke to indicate injectors.
Recently replaced both water pumps.
Suggestions??????

Thanks for your thoughts guys.

I've been around this site for 20 years so....Yes Stu, I searched and read everything on the site. I do appreciate the links that you provide everyone though. Thank you!
Capt Al's page will help if I do pull the counter.

Yes Ron, I read your tech notes about what you did. I also found a thread where you said that you had access to the gap between the icebox and the starboard hull when you removed the counter and stuffed some rigid foam in there before spraying more foam. I guess I misread something???? I did spend a few hours searching everything multiple times.

To mregan, since you did pull you counter, do you feel it was worth the effort to gain the better access? Would you do it again? I am up for the task if it will help me do a better job of it.

Thanks again. Anyone else with comments?

I am determined to finally get at the icebox and improve the insulation.
I've read everything on this site at least a couple of times.
I will remove the counter if it will allow me to see what I am doing rather than blindly spraying foam, but not if it is a waste of time.
Some say when the counter is off the access around the box is the same, Ron says good access to the starboard side/hull void.
My boat is a 1988 (hull #630). If you are anywhere near me and have removed your counter, what did you see?
Thanks for any thoughts regarding the galley counter and other icebox insulation strategies!
Jeff

Yup......that's exactly where mine showed up.
Pop off the trim cover of the Beckson ports and load up the gap you will see with sealant. I used clear silicone.
To confirm I put a sheet of plywood over the ports during the winter rains (Pacific Northwest). That stopped the leaking and then I fixed it when the rains cleared.
Took me years to finally fix it as I tried many other things first.
Good luck!

This is weird. I just started getting some brown fluid in my bilge after 20 years of ownership.
I have had the boat hauled and it hasn't rained so the bilge was perfectly dry and I noticed some brown liquid trickling out of the hole in the base of the mast step. Wiped it up and more came out. It just keeps on trickling out. Can't figure it out! Looks like coke, dark and not viscous, not much in the way of smell.
Any thoughts?????