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Messages - David Sanner

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Main Message Board / Re: Side Deck Width
« on: August 29, 2020, 05:28:23 PM »

I still haven't used the heater onboard but I've learned quite a bit about these heaters (especially how critical a proper fuel hose is & how distributors cut a few corners - surprise) but with a few mods the heater is reliably (so far) pumping out heat with an impressively clean exhaust output.  I've been using it outside at night while and may also use in my workshop this winter.   Tent heater?

I started a wiki page (I'll add more photos once I get onboard) if anyone is interested.

Main Message Board / Re: Side Deck Width
« on: August 20, 2020, 02:30:12 AM »

Thanks Dave, I appreciate you for taking the measurements, that helps a lot.

It sounds like I'll be able to place the heater athwartship with a few inches to spare and direct the hot air directly into the cabin w/ the exhaust pointing outboard.

I may raise the outboard edge/base an inch or so to just sit on the toerail but with a catch of sorts underneath.  That will also help level the unit out as well as raise the exhaust pipe further off the deck.

I'll take some photos of the "install" and post ... whenever I get to see the boat again - currently in Tahoe trying to avoid the smoke from all the CA forest fires.

Main Message Board / Re: Side Deck Width
« on: August 19, 2020, 01:15:55 AM »
Thanks Ron, sounds nice spot for the generator as well.  Good to hear it's stable.

I figured it would sit nicely lengthwise on the deck and I think I the exhaust pipe would clear the toe rail.
(I'm going to wrap it in fiberglass exhaust wrap but I still want an air gap)

If I could mount it athwartship the hot air vent could line up with the portlight and the exhaust would easily clear the deck if the outboard end/base was sitting on top of the toe rail.    It would also make it easier to step over and less likely to bump into the exhaust pipe.

Good to know I have options.

Main Message Board / Side Deck Width
« on: August 18, 2020, 02:19:01 PM »

I'm in the process of setting up a portable diesel heater (may do a permanent install later) and thinking of setting/securing it on the deck near the shrouds just outside one of the opening portlights and pumping fresh/dry/warm air in while the exhaust stays outside/outboard.   Unit is self contained 10W x 15L x 12H complete with a 5L fuel tank & pump, just plug into 12v and control w/ a remote. (see image)  I paid $120 on Amazon.

I'm sure I'll be able to secure it well, especially with a custom base perhaps designed to sit/catch inside the toe rail, but I'm still trying to figure out the best orientation.

Anyone near their c34 (MkI preferred) that could measure the deck width from inside of the toe rail to the base of the cabin top by the cap shroud & the height of the opening portlight?   

(I'm holed up 200 miles & 6400' from the sea but boat projects continue!)

Thanks - I'll post some photos, perhaps on a wiki page, when I finally get to use it this fall.

Main Message Board / Re: Tech Wiki
« on: October 27, 2019, 04:38:44 PM »

Thanks for the heads up.  Compatibility issues w/ everything! 

Should be good for now... will need to update the wiki software to support more current/supported versions of the underlying scripting language is uses.

Fleet 1 / 2019 Great Vallejo Race - May 4th & 5th
« on: March 21, 2019, 12:39:09 PM »

Hey c34 skippers ... come on out for the annual Great Vallejo Race - racer & cruiser fleets!

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Please feel free to comment / communicate via this topic here.

Main Message Board / Re: Website not secure
« on: January 23, 2019, 03:37:33 PM »
It's secure....  even if you're trying to send us money, it's secure.  In the last several months some web browsers have started putting up this alert. They even show this alert for self signed certificates.

What URL have you going to?  or  (note the difference, the https is an encrypted connection, http is not and if there's a man-in-the-middle person snooping your network traffic they could potentially see the plain txt of your password)

If it's the former that would explain it.   I just updated a few links to force users (who come in via http) to redirect to https connections.

While on the subject, if you do click on a link in an email thinking it's your bank and the cert is not secure... don't login.   (better yet, never click on a link like that, just type the URL by hand)   

Also, please don't user the same password for c34 or other similar sites as you would for your bank or more secure accounts!    Best thing I've done for my online security is use a password manager.   Here's a free one that has a plugin for popular browsers    Others are 1password,  KeePass, StickPasword, etc.    Best part is you only have to remember one password (make it a good one) and every site you visit can have a unique one so if one site is hacked it won't expose your other site.

Happy surfing!

Main Message Board / Re: Loose spreader
« on: December 27, 2018, 11:02:10 AM »

I had cracked base which, along with decades of wear, the two holes on one side had widened.  The fix was a set of new bases and drilling a larger hole through the spreaders and spreader bars and installing oversized pins.  It was an easy job w/ the mast on the dock... probably doable without pulling the mast but if unsure check with a rigger.

As far as safe to sail... it's hard to say ... all depends on how loose and sea/wind conditions (always expect the worst).

My repair stiffened things up considerably, a good feeling, especially pushing through steep waves.  I'd recommend doing the repair sooner than later.

Main Message Board / Re: Stemhead Fitting Repair
« on: December 24, 2018, 08:32:12 PM »

My stem fitting needs to come off as it has straightened as it "cut the corner" / flattened out a bit between where it leaves the hull and where it goes around the deck. 

This 'corner cutting' has lifted the stem about 3/16 off the deck ... over the years.  Apparently there wasn't enough/any solid backing material behind the gap in the transition from the hull to the deck.

My plan is pull off the stem, rework the angles of the strap/stem and fill the gap behind the strap with some sort of non-compressible fiber board and epoxy.
(I may call Garhauer before then to check their pricing for a new stem - and getting the 5 holes lined up presents a bit more work/planning)

I have the 1/4 inch aluminum backing plate on 4 of my 5 bolts (which has been more than adequate) ... assume the top one is screw from the outside. (see attached)

The 2nd attached image shows the backing plate and skewed angle of the stem strap that has cut the corner.

A review up and down my dock reveals some lifting on the stem fitting is more often found than not... regardless of manufacturer, even on boats less than 1/2 the age of my 1988 c34.

Main Message Board / Re: Flexible coupling
« on: September 24, 2018, 09:53:56 PM »

I added one of these  which was pretty easy to install (I had to cut the shaft down but had enough key left to use original shaft setup) and wasn't that expensive.   It also provides some shock load reduction and electrical isolation.

It helped a little bit with vibration (not as much as installing soft engine mounts).

I think it might also reduce the stress on the cutless & dripless elements when using softer engine mounts.
Finally supposedly helps a little bit with mis-alignment ... but engine should be reasonably aligned.

Main Message Board / Re: Flex-O-Fold Propeller
« on: August 11, 2018, 12:13:23 AM »

If you don't have any engine issues then it sure does sound like you're over propped.  Ron makes a good point about your prop may not be a sailor prop... and checking his article.  Good luck.   Sailboats like folding props ;)

Main Message Board / Re: Flex-O-Fold Propeller
« on: August 08, 2018, 03:22:56 PM »

I'd be careful in going over 15" in diameter as you could get buffeting on the hull.

If you're over propped @ 15x10 ... 16x13 will surely be too much. 

Finally, what's your max RPM at WOT in neutral? 
It should be close to your max RPM motoring on a calm day in flat water (and without black smoke).  If it's not then you are likely over propped.

Main Message Board / Re: David Sanner Help - Tech WIKI Error
« on: January 25, 2018, 02:01:24 AM »

How do you get ahold of that guy?!!   ;)   

Hey Jon, sorry for the delay, give it a try now I just updated the config file which hopefully will do the trick.


Main Message Board / Re: New web hosting test
« on: December 06, 2017, 05:04:32 PM »

Ken, by clean up the orphaned pages I assume you mean add their links to relevant (higher level) pages?  Sorry, I don't think I got your email.

Looks like there are 43 orphaned pages:
No big deal ... orphaned just means no other pages in the wiki link to it ... 

For example there was a page titled "Muffler" ... I went to add that to the engine index page and found a page on the exhaust system
which already had the links on the Muffler page and more...  so need need for the Muffler page.  42 orphaned pages.

Couple other updates:

- Passwords on technotes have been fixed (hidden .htaccess -> htpass fully qualified paths)

- Looks like all the wiki based project pages have the links  from the original projects page (Missing Jon Schneider who I believe did a lot of that work - he was a great supporter in getting the wiki up and going!)  Thanks to everyone else who has contributed to it as well over the years.

 Finally an update from cutting over to new web hosting service.  Besides a few normal bumps everything went smoothly except the BBS was throwing errors that it couldn't connect to the database from time to time (like several times/hour and kept emailing me).  After server support chat sessions and a few emails I finally spoke with someone on the phone who also couldn't identify the reason but turned on db logging for me to help.  They must have seen/done something else as the issue promptly went away.    So we're good to go!

Main Message Board / Re: New web hosting test
« on: December 06, 2017, 04:04:06 PM »

Ken I updated the home page linking to the boat/project page on the day you posted about it (Sunday?)

I just updated the 2nd link on the home page to the new Projects page (It had been pointing to the archived/static version from old site)
Here's the old link:   Are all of these old links in the wiki now and referenced?  If not we should add them to the Projects page

Speaking of archived pages, the Wiki could really use a FAQ page instead of relying on the old (old site/static) FAQ page here:     One of these days:  (just  a thought)

Whiskymac, thanks for pointing out missing old tech notes... moved back into place, working on a password issue with them now.

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