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#1
OK gang: The good news is I was able to replace the exhaust hose, the through-hull looked OK, and all is good to go now.  :clap

Turns out there was 3 mm hole that had eroded through from the interior at the top of the hump just before the connection to the through-hull. When I cut through there was a 2" x 4" oval area that was heavily worn away, with the area ~1/2" around the hole being <1 mm thick (hose starts out ~ 5 mm thick). Although I didn't perform a full inspection of the entire length, there did not seem to be any other areas degraded so badly. Still... :nail

The bad news: For the Mk 2 the hose is 2 INCH ID, and you only need 12 FEET. I think the dimensions Stu quoted (1 5/8" ID X 17 ft) earlier must be for the Mk I. Fortunately there was a marine supply store nearby that had exactly what I needed so avoided having to slice up the 18 foot section I had ordered. Even better, the original supplier I used will take the overlong section back for a full refund.

Pre-work hints:

1. Remove the wheel to make access to the aft locker easier.

2. Pull EVERYTHING out of the aft locker and aft cabin (or at least both mattress sections). It's pretty cramped in there, and you'll want every free cubic inch for maneuvering.

3. Strongly recommend that you take out the aft panel in the rear cabin to really get a good look at the hose routing. This also makes putting the new hose back in place much easier as there is the blower hose and several cable bundles running in that area as well. Doing it blind is a non-starter. NOTE: The steering gear cover is attached to the bulkhead and the overhead so that needs to come off as well to make this happen.

4. Leave the starboard laminated board in place. The center and port panels that support the mattress need to come off to access the muffler and hose.

5. Get FOUR new 316 Stainless hose clamps or something equally as good. IMHO the factory ones were not top of the line. Costs a little more, but you really don't want these corroding away on you.

Getting it done:

1. I found the drain on the muffler box was somewhat corroded and stuck. When I tried to open it and empty the box before commencing work, the entire drain came out. I was able to work it loose, clean it up, apply some teflon lube to the threads, and the reinstall it easily (don't forget the teflon tape). Don't over-tighten or you'll strip out the threads on the box.

2. Start the actual hose removal in the aft locker by removing the two straps holding the hose in place: one just behind the line for the port cockpit drain and the other at the top of the compartment (the fit is so snug that only the first one is really needed later). Take the drain hose off and unscrew the barb to make access to this strap easier. Just don't forget to put it back unless you want a following sea or the water in the cockpit to enter the tube and wash out the locker. NOTE: It is physically possible to get all the way into the locker (provided you are no taller than 5' 9" and 190#) to do some of this, but mostly it's a lot of awkward bending, reaching, and pulling.

3. Go to the aft cabin. The muffler is located on the port side storage area under the "L" of the center floor panel. The hose runs aft from there under the 2' x 3' panel. There is a vinyl covered metal strap holding the hose in here that needs to come off (I opted to not reinstall as it is a B**** to get back - try to insert a screw in a small space, in the blind and upside down using a stubby screwdriver). The hose runs from there under the tray for the aft water tank and then angles to port and up.

4. Getting the very stiff hose off the muffler box outlet is akin to trying to drag a very large snake out of a tight hole and will provide a nice opportunity to exercise your muscles and nautical terminology. Once you get it off pull it about 6" back into the cabin. This will pull the hump down from the top of the locker and make getting it out later far easier.

5. Now go back up to the locker, remove the through-hull clamps and pull the hose off. Muscle the hose out into the open and start pulling until it comes out. This may require some creative persuasion with your feet and hands to pull it roughly parallel to the hull and out from under the water tank tray.

6. When reinstalling I found it easier if I fed the new hose from inside the aft cabin. That way you can make sure it gets to the right place and does not foul on any of the cables or blower hose. Coming in from the aft locker is pretty tough due to poor visibility of the pathway and no room to work.

Total time on job (not counting getting the shorter hose): ~ 2 hours. I could probably have gone faster, but preferred to go slow as this was my first time trying this. Keep that ben-gay handy for afterwards.

Still sorting photos and will try to post soon. If you want them sooner contact me via email.
#2
Main Message Board / Re: Hull Speed
June 28, 2009, 07:03:28 PM
Would that RV speed be 10 knots on the long axis or getting blown sideways across the prairie?   :rolling
#3
Main Message Board / Re: Mounting artwork, etc
June 24, 2009, 04:09:13 AM
Hawk,

I like the hook solution you used. The downside to that is if you have vertical lines on the panels and nervous nellies below, the artwork becomes an auxiliary "whine-ometer".  :cry4`

If you are going to let it swing I suggest some of those little felt pads that you put on the inside of cabinet doors so the picture will slide smoothly and not grind the finish.  Softer than the plastic and cheap to replace.

#4
Main Message Board / Re: Hull Speed
June 23, 2009, 07:38:50 AM
I've clocked 9.2 SOG on a beam reach (with witnesses), 15 degrees of heel, balanced helm, clean bottom, folding prop.

What a rush!  :thumb:
#5
Stu,

Unless they have curved connectors with an 18" radius, I'd be concerned that splicing a new chunk at the top of the arch probably wouldn't be a great choice due to increased turbulence at the two connectors. Thanks for the tip on the through-hull. The exterior of it looks OK (original but only a few years old), and hope the inside segment is also good.

I'll post a follow-up and some photos when I'm done.

#6
Really appreciate the quick response.  :clap

Because the hole is at the top of the curve, I don't know that putting in a straight connector would even be possible.  Might as well buy the whole thing and do it once.

WM sells a 1 5/8" ID synthetic rubber hose with wire for $9.39/foot (~$170 + tax for 18 ft). Should I add in more length than that?

Will also get new 316 stainless hose clamps (2 at each end) unless other choices (T-bolt) are deemed better.

Anything else I'm forgetting?

Thanks

#7
Main Message Board / Re: Prop Shaft Line Cutter
June 15, 2009, 06:12:11 AM
While chopping the lines and hurting the watermen's income is not good, having your prop fouled and your crew & boat put at risk makes the choice a no-brainer for me.

I've got a "Shaft Shark". It is a 2 piece stainless circular blade that clamps onto the shaft behind the cutlass bearing and just before the prop hub. Imagine a serrated bread knife bent into a circle with the cutting edge facing out. No moving parts, and minimal drag.  :thumb:

It can be professionally resharpened, although I've had mine for 4 years in the Chesapeake Bay and it's still really sharp. Crab pot lines don't stay on long if the shaft is spinning. The occasional barnacle is easily knocked off. A diver can install it in the water, although I put mine on during a routine haul-out. 2 allen bolts, some loctite (included) and 10 minutes is all you need, but wear heavy work gloves to protect your hands.

I agree with Analgesic: It is prudent to keep a mask, snorkel, and fins on board. Get a set of those "medic shears" with the plastic handles. If you do need to go under, tie the shears to a light line and then to your wrist. Easier to operate than a knife, and they cut through nearly everything.

Fair Winds,
#8
Sorry for being away for so long, and hope everyone is OK.

I just noticed a small water leak from the top side of the bend of the big exhaust outlet hose just before it turns down to the through-hull. (not the hump hose). Since it is up in the port rear locker, I can't really see how big it is, but feels small so far. I expect the interior damage is more extensive from the hot gases. I would want to fix this ASAP before going out again. This looks like I should be able to replace it myself, but need advice on the part. My boat is a 2005 Mk II WK with an M-35B engine

I've tried searching in the forum and archives by "exhaust outlet hose", "exhaust hose" and "aqualift muffler hose" but am not seeing the info I need.

1. Suggestions for a better search term?
2. Source for the hose (Catalina, others)
3. Type/size of hose needed
4. Approximate length
5. Any precautions (other than not getting stuck in the locker)?  :D

You can also email me directly at jmckinney10 at verizon dot net

Thanks
#9
Main Message Board / Re: Happy 4th
July 03, 2008, 10:19:03 AM
Ken,

Keep the foulies handy. It looks like rain on Saturday. I'll be out as well.

Happy 4th of July to everyone!! :appl
#10
Per the factory: The outhaul line for in-mast furling is 64' of 3/8 inch (or 10 mm) ultra low stretch line such as T-900, Endura braid or XLS   :clap
#11
Ron,

Thanks for the hint. I'll keep an eye on the postings in case someone has the answer, but will give him a shout on Monday.

PS. I looked at the furling mast manual from Charleston Spars in the knowledge-base section of the website. It listed everything EXCEPT the length of the outhaul.  :?
#12
Main Message Board / Re: Starting Key
June 29, 2008, 09:35:51 AM
So...does the old set work?

Have you tried giving the factory or the maker of the instrument panel a call? If no luck there a professional locksmith might be able to assist you. They have access to all kinds of blanks that most hardware stores don't carry, and ought to have something that will work. If not they might be able to re-key the switch. Worst case it you'll have to get a new switch assembly.

Good luck.
#13
I've got an in-mast furling main and planning on replacing the factory issue halyards with 10 mm T-900 and the main outhaul line with 10 mm Endura braid due to excessive chafe.  The owners manual says I need 117 ft. for each of the halyards but there is no mention of the outhaul line length required. This is one long line that runs from the clew, makes a U-turn at the outboard end of the boom, out at the gooseneck, down to a block at the base of the mast, and back to the cockpit thru a starboard side stopper.

Before I break out the tape measure and go into SWAG mode, I was hoping someone might have this dimension handy. Also, if anyone has different halyard lengths or comments on this plan I'd appreciate hearing from you.

Waiting out the thunderstorms... :wait

Thanks
#14
Another sailor in my area told me he's used powdered "Oxy-clean" instead of the soft-scrub. I have not tried it yet (still under cover), but he says it does a good job cleaning off the stains on all gelcoat but has no abrasives. You might need a scrub brush for the crevices in the non-skid, but otherwise there is minimal elbow grease needed.  :clap
#15
Rick,

Great photo! I use the ATN Tacker and have the same block and shackle hanging on the metal loop of the bow-roller. I'll give your approach some thought, but would be concerned about chafing the tack downhaul against the jib furling drum.