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#1
Main Message Board / Folding swim platform design
September 06, 2025, 04:16:17 PM
As I get ready to sell my boat, I thought I'd contribute a design concept as a way of paying back for the advice and education I've received from this community. This was one of the most useful improvements I made on my boat.  Photos are included below.

Folding Swim Platform Design.
When I purchased my C34 from the estate of the deceased prior owner, there were numerous parts missing that I assume disappeared when his family cleaned out his home.  One of the major pieces that was missing was a transom ladder.  I didn't feel like paying the high prices for a new ladder, so I started looking at alternatives. There have been some nice swim platform designs I've seen on this and other sites, and I felt that my increasingly stiff joints would benefit from a platform for getting in and out of the dinghy.  However, I didn't like the idea of a 'permanent' platform for a couple of reasons: 1.) Marinas will charge you for the extra footage, and 2.) We have otters in our marina, and it gives them easy access to getting onto the boat and doing significant damage.  (Geese and ducks also like to roost on the platforms, leaving their associated messes.)
Given the above parameters, I decided to create a fold-up platform.  However, this required some custom-made parts for the hinge mechanisms.  I'm fortunate that I have a relative who has an extensive machine shop in his garage, and he instructed me on the use of his large mill and lathe machines to make the parts, so I got a good education in the process.  We made full CAD drawings of all the components before milling all the parts.

The platform attaches to the transom with only four ¼" bolts (with appropriately robust backing plates inside) so there isn't much drama in mounting it.  The hinge mechanism uses a ½" clevis pin, so if I need to remove the platform, I just undo 2 pins.  Designing the hinge was tricky, because the transom isn't entirely flat, so there needs to be some swiveling design built into the hinge to be able to have both hinges align correctly. We used a spherical bearing in the hinge to adjust for the slightly different angles.

The support frame beneath the platform simply drops into place when the platform is lowered, held at the appropriate angle by a simple pair of steel cables.  The threaded pivoting pads that rest against the transom allow me to adjust the overall level of the platform.

I had a decision to make about the fore and aft dimension of my platform.  I felt that 18" was a comfortable measurement for getting in and out of the dinghy, however when the platform is raised, it will rest against the transom step above it, rather than tucking beneath it.  That isn't really any big deal to me – I'd rather have the deeper platform.  I just use a small rope to raise it and cleat it on a stanchion cleat and the platform rests against the step.  The support frame legs just fold back against the platform by gravity.
I thought about buying either a pre-made platform or else making one out of Starboard or teak, but for the past 12 years I've been running a remodeling and handyman business, and I build a lot of decks.  I frequently use a synthetic decking material from Lumberock, a Chicago based company.  It is made of solid HDPE (High Density Polyethylene – the same stuff milk bottles are made of) and comes in standard lumber sizes (2x4s, 2x2s etc.)  I had a bunch of 2x2s left from a previous job, so I thought I'd see if I could make use of those.  It's nice stuff to work with, and machines just like wood.

The challenge, as anyone who has tried to glue HDPE can tell you, is how to laminate together a bunch of smaller pieces of HDPE in a way that will support 400 pounds (I wanted it to support 2 people).  I found a very special (read expensive!) glue from 3M that is specifically designed for this kind of material.  It is their Scotch Weld DP8005 product, and costs over $40 for 1.5oz.  To make it worse, you need a unique dispenser gun that costs another $22.  The good news is that the glue works.  I test glued a couple of pieces, and after they were cured, I put them in a vice and smacked them hard numerous times with a dead blow hammer to see if I could break them apart, and there was no separation.  Encouraged by this I proceeded to build the platform, but being a belt and suspenders kind of guy, I also drilled the platform and inserted 3 stainless threaded rods through the width of the platform, which also were drilled through the aluminum angle that makes up part of the hinge mechanism.  These add compressive forces that are extra insurance for keeping the entire unit from falling apart. 
 
The platform works great, doesn't interfere with any of the workings of the boat, and is very comfortable to sit or stand on.  I mounted a telescoping ladder beneath it, which when deployed hangs deeper into the water than a typical transom ladder, making it easier to climb.  I've sailed with the platform in both positions for 4 years now and had no problems either way.  It doesn't flop around when the wave action gets aggressive.  I suppose a large boarding wave from astern could lift it, but in those conditions, I certainly would have already had it in the raised position.  I consider it a practical addition to the boat.
#2
Catalina 34s for Sale / 1988 Catalina 34 MK1 for sale
September 06, 2025, 03:44:33 PM
Health issues are forcing me to sell my 1988 Catalina 34. Boat has lived its entire life on Lake Superior, with only 3 owners. Boat has numerous upgrades, including 210 Ah LiFePO4 house bank and upgraded wiring, new water 6 gallon water heater, a folding swim platform, 3 year old 135 furling genoa, and teak companionway screen doors with plexiglass inserts. Mercury Hypalon dingy with 4Hp Evinrude and factory boat cradle included.  Listing can be seen at https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1988-catalina-34-mki-9881901/
#3
Main Message Board / Re: Exhaust fumes
September 11, 2024, 07:14:02 PM
Sorry that I've been unresponsive.  I got nailed with Covid, and have been down for a while.  Obviously I haven't had much opportunity for getting on the boat during this time.  But to answer some of the questions:
1. Yes, I've added a folding swim platform, however I had the same problem with exhaust fumes before I added that, and adding the platform doesn't seem to have made any difference, good or bad. When it is folded up, it only sticks out about 2 inches, and I keep it folded unless we are deboarding into the dinghy.
2. I mostly experience the problem motoring into the wind.  I've attached a diagram I stole from the internet that shows what I believe is happening.  It is a common phenomena in speed boats.
3. I hadn't considered the effect the pushpit-mounted seats might have before now.  I'll have to experiment and see if removing them helps.
4. Weather cloths on the pushpit might be an easy thing to try.
We are getting close to haul-out time, so I don't know if I'm going to have much more opportunity to experiment this fall. Thanks to all for your input and wisdom.
#4
Main Message Board / Re: Exhaust fumes
August 24, 2024, 02:08:12 PM
I've played around with this issue all summer.  To all those who suggested that I have exhaust leaks, I've had the boat checked over by a professional marine mechanic. The exhaust system is original and unmodified. There are no exhaust leaks, and I don't have exhaust fumes anywhere in the cabin. (I also have CO monitors deployed in the cabins, which register zero.)  I know a bit about fluid flow dynamics from my engineering education, and this is definitely the "station wagon" effect happening.  My dodger is probably shaped different from what the other respondents have, and even a slight difference can have a dramatic effect on air flow. As I mentioned, I DON'T have a Bimini, and wouldn't be surprised if adding one would improve the situation.
Ron - yes - I've started unzipping the center window on my bimini and it eliminates the problem - even just partially opening it works.
I may eventually have my dodger replaced, modifying the shape a bit, but until then I'll just open the window. My initial inquiry was just to see if there were other factors I wasn't considering.
#5
Main Message Board / Re: Exhaust fumes
March 02, 2024, 12:54:03 PM
Like Jon said, it's the "station wagon effect".  I don't have any exhaust leaks inside the boat - I have CO detectors in the cabin for that eventuality. The exhaust is the same as the factory installation and is in good condition. Engine runs perfectly, and has good water flow out the exhaust. 
It isn't a consistent problem, just occasional, and most typically when motoring into the wind.  Like I said in the original post, if I open the dodger windows, it clears up. I'm seriously thinking of doing a test and mocking up a spoiler to mount onto the aft support of the dodger to see if that changes the airflow. Maybe I should get a smoke generator and watch the airflow...
#6
Main Message Board / Re: Exhaust fumes
February 25, 2024, 06:36:01 PM
Ron - I don't have a Bimini (yet...).  Just a typical dodger. I might experiment with some kind of deflector on the top of the dodger to change the airflow. The air must be coming off the top of the dodger and curling down into some kind of a vortex as it flows over the transom, pulling exhaust fumes up around the steering wheel. I've had about 10 episodes where it has gotten quite noxious at the wheel.
#7
Lake Michigan / Re: Great Lakes Roll Call
February 25, 2024, 10:26:43 AM
Been sailing on Lake Superior for 40 years.  Bought my 1988 C34 #818 in 2021, and keep it near Bayfield WI. 
#8
Main Message Board / Exhaust fumes
February 24, 2024, 07:26:05 AM
I've had an annoying issue when motoring where the exhaust gets sucked back into the cockpit to the point where I get headaches from the fumes. I think what's happening is my dodger is causing a vortex that draws the air up from the transom - kind of like in cars, where the rear spoiler is designed to prevent this same air vortex action.  Opening the front window on the dodger changes the airflow enough to alleviate this, but there are many days where it is uncomfortably chilly and we don't want to open the dodger window, so I'm looking for alternatives. Has anyone else ever had this issue, and if so, what did you do to correct it?  (And no - I don't want to add a spoiler on my stern rail  :D )   1988 C34. 
#9
Main Message Board / 1991 salvage C34 website
August 25, 2023, 06:57:11 AM
I came across a website of a South Carolina salvage yard that has a 1991 C34 that is being cut up.   :cry4`
Maybe someone can find some parts they need.  But I thought it was interesting to see the cross section of how the boat is put together.
Here's the link:  https://www.411marine-salvage.com/product/1991-catalina-yachts-34/
#10
I just came across a video on YouTube giving some good tips on servicing a Jabsco marine head.  He as some good tricks for making the job less messy.  However, at the end he recommends using olive oil for lubricating, which some people disagree with, but otherwise its a nicely done video.   Just thought I'd pass it along!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14mkaCgEkzY&ab_channel=TheBoatCheat
#11
Noah - I'm curious - I bought one of those Garhauer stanchion blocks with the cleats last year, and I HATE it!  I find that when trying to uncleat the line, when I snap the line up, the whole spring-loaded block just swings up with the line, and it doesn't uncleat.  Do you find the same thing?  I have to actually step over to the cleat and hold the block to get it to uncleat.  I'm contemplating removing the cleat portion and mount that on the edge of the cockpit instead. 
#12
Noah - yes, I tried storing them next to the ladder.  Being a bit clumsy, I kept hitting my funny bone on them as I was climbing down the steps - especially when I was carrying something into the cabin.

Ron - That's another good idea.  However when it starts to downpour then I'd have to run out into the cockpit to get the boards. Its nice to just be able to quickly grab them from inside and mount them up.  To each his own!! 
#13
Main Message Board / What to do with hatch boards
March 09, 2023, 02:18:08 PM
On every boat I've ever owned I've been frustrated with where to stash the hatch boards after removing them from the hatch.  I know there are some manufacturers that actually have places designed to hold them, but no boat I've owned had this feature.  And some people have installed hinged doors, but I'm not a fan of those doors. 
As I was sitting here watching yet another snowstorm, I decided to solve my problem once and for all.  I happened to have taken my hatch boards home to refinish them and so I was able to use them as a template.  I built a wall-mounted holder (what else would you call it??) that will mount on the aft cabin bulkhead (the other side of the oven wall).  This might not work for MKII models - if I remember correctly you have a cabinet on that bulkhead, correct?

The holder has a sloped bottom that matches the angle of the hatch board sides, so the boards stay in place very nicely.  I divided the holder into two slots, which are lined with a thin rubber drawer liner material so that the hatch boards won't bang around while under sail. One of the photos shows just the central component of the holder without the sides attached.  Keeping the two boards separated will hopefully avoid scratching and chipping their finish.  To make it easier to slide the boards in, I made one side shorter, but still high enough to keep the boards in place while heeled over.
By the way - I haven't completed the staining/finishing.  It still looks a bit rough - but it will be presentable when completed...

I just thought I'd pass along the idea in case others were as frustrated as I was with what to do with the hatch boards.
#14
Main Message Board / Re: I’ve Crimped My Last
February 09, 2023, 06:58:37 AM
Maybe if you got some big heat shrink and slid it over the entire Wago assembly, you could make it more resistant to corrosion  :D
#15
Main Message Board / Re: Lithium Battery Bank and Starter
February 08, 2023, 06:14:20 PM
I'm going to venture forth with my opinions on this subject even though some may not agree.  I'm right in the middle of reconfiguring my boat's battery and charging systems to incorporate LiFePO4 for the house bank.  My recommendations to MQ are as follows:

1.First, spend some more time educating yourself about incorporating Lithium.  As Maine Sail says, Lithium is not a drop-in replacement for lead acid.  There's more to consider than you see at first glance.  I'd recommend watching the video seminars on YouTube from Pacific Yacht Systems (Jeff Cote) on the subject (yes, I know, he's long winded, but there's good information in there.)  Also Maine Sail has several good write-ups, as well as Nigel Calder's extensive writings and his videos on YouTube.

2.One of the above authors made a good analogy, which was that LiFePO4 batteries are like marathon runners, and lead-acid starter batteries are like sprinters.  Starting an engine requires a sprinter – big push for a short duration.  This is not what LiFePO4 batteries are designed for.  They are good at providing a strong, steady output for long periods of time.  The three authors above all seem to agree that using a LiFePO4 battery as a starter battery on a regular basis is not recommended. 

3.You mentioned that you were going to have the DC to DC charger charging the starter battery from the house bank.  In my opinion, that's backwards.  Unless you are also using solar, the DC charger only comes into play when you are charging via the alternator.  When you crank the engine, you are only draining the starter battery by a couple of percent in most cases, unless your engine requires some serious maintenance. (This is why most internally regulated alternators have a VERY conservative charging profile – it only takes a few minutes to fully recharge the starter battery.)  So to me, it makes more sense to have the DC charger look to see when the starter battery has 13.6 V on it (i.e. it is being charged by the alternator), and draw from that side to also charge the house bank, which will likely be in more need of charging. The starter battery will be recharged in short order, and then the DC charger and alternator can focus on the house bank.

4.There are many misconceptions about Lithium batteries – especially the issue with flammability.  Maine Sail does a good job of putting this to rest (as does Nigel Calder), clarifying that the LiFePO4 battery is very different that the earlier Lithium Ion batteries that made the news so often.  The primary concern for fire with LiFePO4 would actually come from situations where a dead short in wiring occurred that would allow the battery to pump out vast amounts of current, melting the wiring.  However most of the batteries being sold today have battery management systems that would shut down the battery in these situations.  That BMS, combined with an appropriate Class T fuse in the main wiring configuration should greatly reduce this risk.  The other situation to guard against is using a 1/2/both switch and combining a heavily discharged starter battery with a fully charged LiFePO4 bank.  The large voltage difference would cause a big current spike, and again could lead to a wiring meltdown. In my configuration, I'm using a keyed switch hidden away from passengers that will allow me in an emergency use my house bank for starting the engine, but only after I first pull the fuse on the starter battery so that the two banks are never linked.

That's my nickel's worth.  Is it worth installing LiFePO4?  I think so – for nearly the same cost as replacing my 4 dying Trojan T-105's I'm getting about 220 amp hours, of which I can actually use about 175 AH on a regular basis (and more if I really need), whereas the Trojans gave me 420 AH, but I could only use about 35% of that on a regular basis or 147 AH (sometimes 200 AH if I pushed it hard, but you pay a price in longevity for that).  Not to mention the far longer lifespan for the LiFePO4.   And I can fit the two lithium batteries easily into the battery box, with enough room to also mount the DC to DC charger in there and do a nice, neat wiring job for my main unswitched bus, fuses, etc. 
OK – I've stepped down off my soapbox...