Again, thanks for all the helpful comments. Particularly claygur's comments on viewing the boat.
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Main Message Board / Re: Newbie Question on potential C-34
August 04, 2015, 07:20:27 AM
Thanks all, I sincerely appreciate the advice.
Few comments.
Familiar with fewer 34's available due to a lower production run.
Yep, Chicago to Milwaukee is not a bad drive, and Milwaukee is one of my favorite cities.
I too didn't think that was a "give away" price, but just a hair under market value, and maybe not even that with the possible maintenance required.
I've noticed the C-34 for sale in Winthrop Harbor area, but it's just above my max limit. I've also noticed the C-34 for sale over on Michagan side, in my range. However that one is a wing, and I'm partial to the fins, if possible.
I've priced a rudder for a C-30 I looked at a year ago, so have a ball park idea what the repair costs are, or a replacement. Part of me kinda doesn't mind replacing this one to go with the elliptical "upgrade", if needed.
Don't mind rebedding the the chainplates and deck hardware. I think my biggest concern is the fairing on the keel joint. And since it's currently in the water, will be difficult to determine it's state. I've had a boat surveyed before, and it seems it's more difficulty getting an in water boat surveyed out of water.
Ken, thanks for all the details on the compression post and the keel, much appreciated.
Completely understand boats need maintenance, and are usually a project over time. I'm actually looking forward to that. Caveat right now is I'm trying to start a business, and have limited free time at the moment (but do expect that to widen in about a year). Some I'm hesitant to step into serious work right off the bat.
I imagine she will still be for sale after the season is over. I think it might be best to view her after she is hauled out for better inspection. There is also a 1990 C-30 I'm hoping to view near the Wisconsin boarder. Which is one of the best parts of being in the lower Lake Michican market, so many harbors to watch for possible boats for sale!
Again, thank you for all the advice.
Few comments.
Familiar with fewer 34's available due to a lower production run.
Yep, Chicago to Milwaukee is not a bad drive, and Milwaukee is one of my favorite cities.
I too didn't think that was a "give away" price, but just a hair under market value, and maybe not even that with the possible maintenance required.
I've noticed the C-34 for sale in Winthrop Harbor area, but it's just above my max limit. I've also noticed the C-34 for sale over on Michagan side, in my range. However that one is a wing, and I'm partial to the fins, if possible.
I've priced a rudder for a C-30 I looked at a year ago, so have a ball park idea what the repair costs are, or a replacement. Part of me kinda doesn't mind replacing this one to go with the elliptical "upgrade", if needed.
Don't mind rebedding the the chainplates and deck hardware. I think my biggest concern is the fairing on the keel joint. And since it's currently in the water, will be difficult to determine it's state. I've had a boat surveyed before, and it seems it's more difficulty getting an in water boat surveyed out of water.
Ken, thanks for all the details on the compression post and the keel, much appreciated.
Completely understand boats need maintenance, and are usually a project over time. I'm actually looking forward to that. Caveat right now is I'm trying to start a business, and have limited free time at the moment (but do expect that to widen in about a year). Some I'm hesitant to step into serious work right off the bat.
I imagine she will still be for sale after the season is over. I think it might be best to view her after she is hauled out for better inspection. There is also a 1990 C-30 I'm hoping to view near the Wisconsin boarder. Which is one of the best parts of being in the lower Lake Michican market, so many harbors to watch for possible boats for sale!
Again, thank you for all the advice.
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Main Message Board / Newbie Question on potential C-34
August 03, 2015, 02:50:31 PM
Hi, first post. Apologies if this is the wrong section.
Trying to decide if the following C-34 is worth making the drive from Chicago to Milwaukee for a viewing, potentially making an offer.
Boat in question:
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=2796483&checked_boats=2796483&hosturl=larsenmarine&&ywo=larsenmarine&&ybw=&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=12544&url=
It's a 1988 Fin. , Tall Rig. Broker responded to me today with the following:
"The boat is in the water at the Port Washington, WI marina. The keel bolts are tight however the fairing on the keel to hull joint has started to come off in several places. I'm sure there is moisture in the rudder. The chain plates and deck hardware are due for re-bedding. Cosmetically she shows below average but she is offered at a give-away price by a motivated seller."
I prefer to view boats out of the water. I have some concern with the broker's comment on the fairing on the keel to hull joint. I've had to walk away from a C-30 after survey found the keel was separating and shifted the compression post decently, causing moderate deck problems. I assume chain plate and deck hardware rebedding shouldn't be of concern, unless there has been water damage. I assume moisture in the rudder to be expected, and not of serious concern.
Opinions?
A little about myself to assist with opinions. This would be my first boat. Would be sailing out of Chicago. Been primarily looking at C-30's (and fairly familiar with them), but more I read about C-34's, the more I am interested in them. I'm not looking for perfect, but I'm also not looking for a project boat, or something needing significant work right off the bat.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Trying to decide if the following C-34 is worth making the drive from Chicago to Milwaukee for a viewing, potentially making an offer.
Boat in question:
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=2796483&checked_boats=2796483&hosturl=larsenmarine&&ywo=larsenmarine&&ybw=&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=12544&url=
It's a 1988 Fin. , Tall Rig. Broker responded to me today with the following:
"The boat is in the water at the Port Washington, WI marina. The keel bolts are tight however the fairing on the keel to hull joint has started to come off in several places. I'm sure there is moisture in the rudder. The chain plates and deck hardware are due for re-bedding. Cosmetically she shows below average but she is offered at a give-away price by a motivated seller."
I prefer to view boats out of the water. I have some concern with the broker's comment on the fairing on the keel to hull joint. I've had to walk away from a C-30 after survey found the keel was separating and shifted the compression post decently, causing moderate deck problems. I assume chain plate and deck hardware rebedding shouldn't be of concern, unless there has been water damage. I assume moisture in the rudder to be expected, and not of serious concern.
Opinions?
A little about myself to assist with opinions. This would be my first boat. Would be sailing out of Chicago. Been primarily looking at C-30's (and fairly familiar with them), but more I read about C-34's, the more I am interested in them. I'm not looking for perfect, but I'm also not looking for a project boat, or something needing significant work right off the bat.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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