My boat has two piece of those wood and look pretty warn out. Do they sell those pieces?
i tried Catalina Direct but all they have are hatch boards for a C25.
Catalina Yachts is still in business, thought you would know this. Have you tried them?
That said, while yours may be in poor shape, since they are most likely solid, like ours are, have you considered refinishing them? Teak cleaner followed by teak brightener, followed by the coating of your choice or none. :D
Quote from: Stu Jackson on November 28, 2016, 10:42:58 PM
i tried Catalina Direct but all they have are hatch boards for a C25.
Catalina Yachts is still in business, thought you would know this. Have you tried them?
That said, while yours may be in poor shape, since they are most likely solid, like ours are, have you considered refinishing them? Teak cleaner followed by teak brightener, followed by the coating of your choice or none. :D
Obviously I am going to refinish them but my worry is not that they look ugly but structurally worn. I mean the top portion of the bottom piece looks like it was shaved unevenly.
I guess I can always get a dark colored thick plexiglass cut to fit that area but I still prefer the classic varnished wood look.
Hello capt.
SInce you have the original in hand, put them flat and mesure outside dimension, cut piece of plywood to install temporary while not at boat.
Take the original piece to a woodshop near you and ask them what you would like. They will be please to make new one and even add a personal touch.
Quote from: patrice on November 29, 2016, 04:53:03 AM
Hello capt.
SInce you have the original in hand, put them flat and mesure outside dimension, cut piece of plywood to install temporary while not at boat.
Take the original piece to a woodshop near you and ask them what you would like. They will be please to make new one and even add a personal touch.
That's why I need to be on a board like this... See, as a typical consumer I never thought of that! :?
Thank you!!!
If you're looking at replacement anyway, you might check into the companionway doors from Zarcor and others. The Zarcor ones open like normal doors, and are also removable if you want to get them entirely out of the way.
(http://www.zarcor.com/products/c-doors/images/CompanionwayDoors-on-Catalina-C310_lg.jpg)
I had them on a charter boat once, and they were NICE. They are pricey, which is why I'm sticking with what I have. But if I needed to replace mine, I'd probably go with Zarcor.
One mod that I have on my list is to make a replacement for the middle hatchboard (my boat has three, not two) which consists of a wooden outline frame and screen in the middle. It would improve ventilation through the boat while anchored out, while keeping bugs out.
The Zarcor and other doors look very nice, visually.
But one has to look at the operational details before spending the money on them.
From those pictures, and all others I have seen, because the threshold of the companionway is below the seat level of the cockpit seats, the doors can only open 90 degrees.
Thus, they work just fine if you have a need to keep the companionway closed for most of the time, like with air conditioning, heating, or bugs.
I was fortunate, ever since we bought our boat, to have the ability to sail with the hatch boards out, and only, sometimes, put them in at night. While things may be different in my new environment, so far not. I can't imagine not having the companionway open for quick access down below. I suppose doors could be considered quick access... I once sailed with a skipper on a beautiful day and he kept his hatch boards in. Found out later he served in submarines!!! :D
Just a cautionary explanation of how the doors work on a C34. Other boats have conditions where the doors could open fully, not ours.
As I mentioned, we had those doors on a one-week C320 charter, so I speak from much more experience than just looking at a picture. The ones we used (not sure they were Zarcor) have a detente that keeps them open at the 90° position. [Edit: It might not be a detente - you'll see that the angle that the doors are mounted causes their weight to keep them open. All I know is it stayed open fine. The slant also takes a little room away from the settee, which may bother some more than others. That angle is much less steep for the C320 and C34 than is is for the C310 shown in the picture, so the space lost is less.] After a week with these doors we decided the positives far outweighed any negatives. And they did allow us to keep the doors closed while in the cockpit, which was very handy for keeping heat in the cabin during our early spring charter. Yet we could still get very fast access into the cabin if needed - much much faster than the hatchboards, which are so cumbersome to remove that keeping them closed is actually are a safety issue while sailing. And they also come with screen inserts for summer use at anchor.
We ended the charter with my wife saying, "We definitely need those when we get our new boat" (which we now have). Then I asked her if it was worth $800 to her, and she said, "Maybe not." We have other "must-haves" to buy first.
I installed Zarcor doors a few years ago. The main reason was I put in AC and got tired of the hatch boards. I don't see any down side to the Zarcor doors. Except the cost. The 90 deg opening isn't a problem for me. And, the doors come off so quick and easy if there were a problem I would just remove and put them in a berth.
Jim
capt'n..........
If you buy some teak boards you can make them, the tops are simply routed to overlap, but note the sides are a separate piece dado'd into the end grain of the boards. Or
Call CTY parts in fla. Or
Call Cesar, formerly lead carpenter with H&L marine wpoodwork, the teak suppliers to CTY
http://c34.org/bbs/index.php?topic=7879.0
tell him ken from weekend'r products sent you. Or
Call (don't email) CD, and ask for Kent - they have 'crib boards' and probably the place they have to make them can probably mill some to fit yours. given exact dimensions. Or
http://www.teakmarinewoodwork.com/
or .............
-ken
Quote from: Capt.Jim on November 28, 2016, 08:40:06 PM
My boat has two piece of those wood and look pretty warn out. Do they sell those pieces?
Jim
I'm not 100% positive but believe that the Fla group (TMW) is who bought out all the stock that H&L had left when it "ceased biz" some 4-5 years ago (I used to rep for H&L until they went out of biz.)
ken
Capt J : Those hatch are teak and were made at the factory for YOUR C34.
If you want new ones you'll have to make a pattern so the new ones will match/fit !!!!!!!!!!!
Personally I'd do as Stu suggested and refinish the hatch boards you have. Teak easily cleand up and sands nicely.
A thought
I made companionway doors like the Zarcor, but mine are solid wood. I hate slats. I have the lift off hinges so we completely remove the doors when sailing.
I only use the doors on the weekends when we are actually on the boat and put the slats back in place when we close up to go home.
Quote from: Ron Hill on November 29, 2016, 02:39:47 PM
Capt J : Those hatch are teak and were made at the factory for YOUR C34.
If you want new ones you'll have to make a pattern so the new ones will match/fit !!!!!!!!!!!
Personally I'd do as Stu suggested and refinish the hatch boards you have. Teak easily cleand up and sands nicely.
A thought
Roger that Ron. I began to work on them. The reason I was asking is this: As you all probably know hatch boards are two separate pieces.There is a slight opening in the middle portion of these two pieces when they sit on top of each other... I don't know the purpose of it. Is it a grab area so you can put your fingers thru or air intake or whatever...
That portion of the bottom piece was really warn out. I mean looks it looks like some volume of the wood is lost there. It is not an evenly cut looks to it. If I sand or grind it to an even level the opening will be larger than i would like it to be. That's why I was thinking to replace the bottom piece if I decide to keep the classic varnished wood look on my boat or go with the plastic/glass screen type of modern looking hatch cover.
As first option, I am trying to redo them and see what will I end up with.
sounds like your weather boards are screwed up. pics?
-kk
I have a factory cut horizontal, approx 1/2 in. X 12 in. (guessing) routed-through/cut angled at 45 degrees, vent in my wood hatch board. I will send a photo when I go the boat this weekend.
noah
between boards? Or cut thru the center of the top board?
I have cuts (2 or 3?) thru the mid top board. Strategically angled cuts so that wind blown precip basically blows "straight in"
like this example
(http://hshyachts.com/1986_catalina_34_sailboat_for_sale_houston_17.jpg)
Fuzzy memory. And I have a Sunbrella cover over to protect the varnish. I will take a pic and share this weekend.
one issue i have, with the slat boards, is mud wasps wiggling in the slats and making nests in my boat. i'd love to do the zacor if i could!
Ken : FYI, The C34 hatch boards are different from the other Catalinas !!
The single "vent slot" is cut into the bottom contour of the top hatch board.
A thought
Quote from: KWKloeber on December 01, 2016, 08:20:49 PM
noah
between boards? Or cut thru the center of the top board?
I have cuts (2 or 3?) thru the mid top board. Strategically angled cuts so that wind blown precip basically blows "straight in"
No, mine is NOT like the picture posted. Just one single cut between the boards in the middle where they touch each other.
Mine too photo coming tonight
Quote from: Ron Hill on December 04, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
Ken : FYI, The C34 hatch boards are different from the other Catalinas !!
The single "vent slot" is cut into the bottom contour of the top hatch board.
A thought
Ron:
FYI, see C-34 examples below. :shock:
As I've said (too?) many times, no boat manufacturer has the word "
standard" in its vocabulary.
Stated differently, look up "
standard" in the pictionary, and you will not see any boat's photo alongside it! :rolling
Ken
(http://www.38southboatsales.com.au/wp-content/uploads/image/27/2016/3342-Catalina-34-Mk-1--(3).JPG)
(http://hshyachts.com/1986_catalina_34_sailboat_for_sale_houston_6.jpg)
(http://img.justsailboats.com/images/11932/Sailboat-Catalina-a7594c8f-cb58-4f7c-b855-648fb6f2360c.jpg)
My hatch boards
Mine are like Ken's with the 5 slots.
Clarification, pics aren't mine -- but my C-30 has similarly cut slots (3, I think)
k
Mine are like Noah's, except not as good looking.
Quote from: KWKloeber on December 04, 2016, 03:39:54 PM
Ron:
FYI, see C-34 examples below.
(http://img.justsailboats.com/images/11932/Sailboat-Catalina-a7594c8f-cb58-4f7c-b855-648fb6f2360c.jpg)
Mine are like these. The joint between the two is NOT flat, there is an overlap with the top over the bottom.
FWIW, at some point Catalina switched to three boards instead of two. I have the vent cut in the gap between two of the boards. I can't remember which ones right now.
Strip, sand, varnish. Light sand, varnish, repeat at least 4 times. Love! 8) :thumb:
Quote from: Noah on December 04, 2016, 06:59:53 PM
Strip, sand, varnish. Light sand, varnish, repeat at least 4 times. Love! 8) :thumb:
Yep, that's what I am working on lately... :thumb:
BTW I know, "It never rains in SoCal" !! but do you folks on the right coast have an issue w/ rain blowing inside under the bottom weather board?
It was a problem on the 30, because the bottom of the opening is "flat"
The fix was to screw down a 3/4 x 3/4 teak (or alum) strip onto the flat teak, up against the bottom board.
Are 'all y'alls a flat, or "stepped," step?
kk
Quote from: Breakin Away on December 04, 2016, 05:39:17 PM
FWIW, at some point Catalina switched to three boards instead of two. I have the vent cut in the gap between two of the boards. I can't remember which ones right now.
They made the change on the Mark IIs.
Quote from: KWKloeber on December 04, 2016, 08:14:01 PM
BTW I know, "It never rains in SoCal" !! but do you folks on the right coast have an issue w/ rain blowing inside under the bottom weather board?
It was a problem on the 30, because the bottom of the opening is "flat"
The fix was to screw down a 3/4 x 3/4 teak (or alum) strip onto the flat teak, up against the bottom board.
Are 'all y'alls a flat, or "stepped," step?
kk
My boat, a 1986 model, has a half round piece of wood inside the bottom board. Don't know if the PO added it or if it was OEM.
Ken- my companionway threshold does have a "weather stop" piece of rounded teak that the bottom hatch board butts up against. Figures, the one pic I didn't take!
THANKS!!
I have the three teak board configuration and it works fine, but I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions about replacing one of the boards with a frame that has a screen? It'd be nice to have more ventilation below, while keeping the hatch closed.
i saw a companionway like that. not pretty slick.
not sure it was cataline, tho.
search google images
i believe lowes or HD has the screen alum, only things it the corner inserts are 90 degree.
kk
Quote from: Stu Jackson on December 04, 2016, 08:34:31 PM
My boat, a 1986 model, has a half round piece of wood inside the bottom board. Don't know if the PO added it or if it was OEM.
Mine has the same half round piece.
Quote from: KWKloeber on December 05, 2016, 06:06:05 PM
i saw a companionway like that. not pretty slick.
not sure it was cataline, tho.
search google images
i believe lowes or HD has the screen alum, only things it the corner inserts are 90 degree.
kk
Ooops, my fault for being on a darn "device."
What I tried to say was -- It WAS PRETTY SLICK looking, but NOT sure it was on a Catalina.