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Title: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: britinusa on April 09, 2016, 04:44:37 AM
Moving along with the running rigging upgrades.
Now have 8 lines lead back to the cockpit and can put in / take out 2 reefs

Next is the traveller upgrade. Read a ton of posts on the subject, so I'm going to call Garhauer on Monday.

Best pic I found showing the result is this one. (IMHO)

(http://c34.org/bbs/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8225.0;attach=4703;image)

That 3 sheave block on the traveller looks nothing like our setup, I presume that is not part of the traveller upgrade kit??

Paul

Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Ken Juul on April 09, 2016, 06:57:31 AM
correct.  The boat pictured has had the mainsheet tackle upgraded.  Also looks like a Garhauer product.  When you talk to Mark or Guido they are very helpful, can modifiy just about anything to suit your needs.  I wanted the cam cleats mounted on the cabin top rather than the traveler.  They came packed seperately in a zip lock bag.

I'm not sure about the spring show, but they Garhauer always has a booth at the Annapolis Boat Show in the fall.  Some great deals, got my davits for about half price.
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Stu Jackson on April 09, 2016, 07:11:32 AM
Quote from: Ken Juul on April 09, 2016, 06:57:31 AM........When you talk to Mark or Guido they are very helpful, can modifiy just about anything to suit your needs.  I wanted the cam cleats mounted on the cabin top rather than the traveler.  They came packed seperately in a zip lock bag.

Ken's right.  I did, too, so Guido put rollers on the aft end of the track cars instead of the cam cleats.  I run the control lines aft through a single grommet in my dodger windows to bullet fairleads on the cabintop and the cam cleats at the aft end of the cabintop.  I kept my old track, sent them the cold end cars and the mainsheet car and they put the new sheaves on them.  Didn't take too long either.  Great folks to work with.  While there may be a "traveler upgrade KIT" these days (I did mine in 2000, two years after we bought our boat), and my records show it was the Garhauer M-2, but we did discuss it by phone.  I have no idea what the "KIT" may include, but haven't looked at their catalog online.

Here's a longer description:  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,2107.msg11345.html#msg11345 (http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,2107.msg11345.html#msg11345)

and a photo of ours in this topic:  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,2781.0.html (http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,2781.0.html)  I don't recommend some of the convoluted arrangements suggested therein, however.

and:  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,2417.msg13010.html#msg13010 (http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,2417.msg13010.html#msg13010)

Good luck, it's a great improvement.

PS - only one L in traveler - makes it easier to search... 8)
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Mike and Joanne Stimmler on April 09, 2016, 08:25:47 AM
I actually got to meet Mark at the Strictly Sail Pacific boat show in S.F last year. Very nice man. He helped me with quite a few projects on my boat. That show is starting in a few days and he'll probably be there this year too.
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Ron Volk on April 09, 2016, 11:03:23 AM
Same with me, Guido helped me out as I wanted to run the lines back to the cabin top, added the rollers on the end fittings and supplied the roller fittings for the cabin top.


http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,6495.msg42378.html#msg42378
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Stu Jackson on April 09, 2016, 11:14:00 AM
Paul, also read the Nov. 2005 Tech Notes.  Reminder to check if you have the track through bolted.  Good pictures there, too.
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Ron Hill on April 09, 2016, 12:26:49 PM
Stu : I believe that the first year production (1986) was the only year that did not have the traveler rail thru bolted.
Also not that the picture shows an new improved (ball bearing) mainsheet block attached to the traveler car.

A thought
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Noah on April 09, 2016, 12:39:37 PM
Pics
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Noah on April 09, 2016, 12:41:39 PM
Another.  I used Spinnlock swivel cam cleats on cabin top so that traveler line rotates and is easy to operate from anywhere in the cockpit.
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Stu Jackson on April 09, 2016, 05:00:45 PM
Thanks, Noah, that first picture has the "roller" I mentioned.
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Roc on April 10, 2016, 06:00:38 PM
Paul,
I upgraded my traveler by leading both lines off the port side.  Every new boat I notice has the traveler set up that way.  It required to lead both lines through the dodger.  I'm in the process of mounting two cam cleats to secure the lines.  I work my traveler quite often and having the lines on opposite sides was always a hassle. We'll see how my upgrade works out this coming season.
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Noah on April 10, 2016, 07:50:02 PM
Roc- with the spinnlock swivel cams i can stand anywhere in the cockpit and adjust/play both ends.
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Ken Juul on April 11, 2016, 06:50:32 AM
pictures of how I set mine up.

http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,3167.msg17175.html#msg17175 (http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,3167.msg17175.html#msg17175)
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: britinusa on April 12, 2016, 05:59:49 PM
thanks everyone,
I spoke to Guido at Garhauer today and ordered the upgrade along with the blocks to run the control lines forwards to a block then aft to the cockpit parallel to the other lines.

Paul
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Noah on April 12, 2016, 06:02:49 PM
Seems like that way introduces more friction?
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: Ken Juul on April 13, 2016, 06:18:59 AM
maybe a bit more friction.  But with the 6:1 advantage and ball bearing sheaves the sail is easily controlable.  Also no holes in the Dodger.
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: KWKloeber on April 13, 2016, 08:05:57 AM
Quote from: britinusa on April 12, 2016, 05:59:49 PM
thanks everyone,
I spoke to Guido at Garhauer today and ordered the upgrade along with the blocks to run the control lines forwards to a block then aft to the cockpit parallel to the other lines.

Paul

Paul,  Is Garhauer giving a discount to you? 
I think on the "C-30 packages" that they're doing 10% discount (taking it away from us dealers LOL)

Ken
Title: Re: Traveller Upgrade
Post by: britinusa on April 13, 2016, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: Noah on April 12, 2016, 06:02:49 PM
Seems like that way introduces more friction?
Quite possibly Noah. However going to a ball bearing traveller and control block and turning block should be so much easier than we currently are setup.

Holding our breath waiting for arrival of the kit.

Paul