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Title: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: Kevin Henderson on October 25, 2010, 09:12:32 PM
Here's a puzzling one for me :?
Pau hana is a 1988 (Hull #791)  I think she is a tall rig but am not absolutely certain.  Is there an easy way to identify the different rigs just by looking?  On the Catalina 30's it's quite easy to spot the tall rigs because of the bowsprit.  Is there an equally easy way to do so with the 34's?
If not, I may go back to Catalina and inquire to see what there original specs indicated.
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: Gary Brockman on October 25, 2010, 09:48:34 PM
No, unless it is next to another boat that you know the mast height, like a Catalina 36 which is the same as a C34 tall rig. There is only a two foot difference.

Gary
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: Stu Jackson on October 25, 2010, 10:38:04 PM
Kevin, why not just measure it?  You have the boat.  :D If you don't have a manual, which has the spar dimensions, there's probably one on the website somewhere...
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: Bill Asbury on October 26, 2010, 10:16:26 AM
Kevin, you could attach a tape measure to a halyard to determine the mast height.  Standard rig is 49'7".
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: Kevin Henderson on October 26, 2010, 10:22:01 AM
DOH!!  :abd:
You are soo right... I'll either attach a tapemeasure this weekend and find out.  My suspician is she is a tall rig.
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: gwp on October 26, 2010, 01:15:49 PM
Kevin....I dealt with this too. You might find that getting an accurate measurement to waterline is harder than one would think....it was for me. Though it will work with a two ft margin of error, I called Catalina with my Hull # and had a conclusive answer in a couple minutes.
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: Stu Jackson on October 26, 2010, 01:32:34 PM
You do NOT have to measure to the waterline.

Just look at the manuals which show the length of the SPAR (the mast extrusions) for both deck and keel stepped masts.

Not that hard to deal with the offset of two feet.
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: Ron Hill on October 26, 2010, 06:41:10 PM
Guys : In a past Mainsheet article, I told owners to look at the tape written decal that's on the inside track of your keel stepped mast.  It gives the hull number and lets you know if it's a "Standard" or a "Tall rigged mast!  Not to sure where it is on the deck stepped masts, but I'm sure it's there.

Good information in those old Mainsheet tech notes, but you have to read them.    A thought
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: Gary Brockman on October 27, 2010, 02:00:32 PM
The standard rig has an "I" of 44 feet and the tall rig has an "I" of 46 feet. Just measure to the deck.

Gary
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: mtmaksim on July 18, 2017, 01:27:35 PM
Ron:

I just dug through all the old Tech Notes, looking for the post about the decal in the track.  I've found this tape, but can't find the deciphering "code" in the tech notes. 

When you have a minute - would you know what year it was?     

Thanks!
Mike Maksimchuk

Quote from: Ron Hill on October 26, 2010, 06:41:10 PM
Guys : In a past Mainsheet article, I told owners to look at the tape written decal that's on the inside track of your keel stepped mast.  It gives the hull number and lets you know if it's a "Standard" or a "Tall rigged mast!  Not to sure where it is on the deck stepped masts, but I'm sure it's there.

Good information in those old Mainsheet tech notes, but you have to read them.    A thought
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: britinusa on July 19, 2017, 09:48:21 AM
And a link to that post would be helpful too.

Paul
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: Ron Hill on July 19, 2017, 02:24:57 PM
Paul : Find the tape, write down the numbers and letters and I believe that you can decipher it!!
As I recall it includes your hull #.

A thought
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: britinusa on July 20, 2017, 11:32:03 AM
Where is the 'Tape' located?
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: KWKloeber on July 20, 2017, 01:20:51 PM
uhhhhhh, why not just call CTY with the hull number?
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: Ron Hill on July 20, 2017, 02:01:48 PM
Paul : The tape is located near the bottom of the mast that is setting in the mast shoe. 
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: Stu Jackson on July 20, 2017, 05:10:48 PM
Quote from: KWKloeber on July 20, 2017, 01:20:51 PM
uhhhhhh, why not just call CTY with the hull number?

Why not simply MEASURE it?
Title: Re: Tall Rig Vs.Standard identification
Post by: KWKloeber on July 20, 2017, 08:18:43 PM
Quote from: Stu Jackson on July 20, 2017, 05:10:48 PM

Why not simply MEASURE it?

Ya, well sure yah can, many ways to skin it.  But that wasn't the original question (an equally easy way as spotting a bowsprit on a 30?). And if the tape is gone or faded, then that visual is out the window.
Yah can measure I, or measure P, or measure LP, or sit it next to another boat, but that's not visually ID-ing it as he originally asked.   

Yah know, like folks explaining ad infinitum how easy it is to build a new saloon table?  :D  How did the trimming go, BTW?

-k