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Title: Wobbly Salon Table
Post by: Richard Bain on May 25, 2005, 11:32:16 AM
I know there are several posts about this, but none seem to suggest a solution (that I can see)

Does anyone know how to stop the wobble on the salon table? Everything seems tight, and in place....This is not unbearable, but when a guest goes to get up, and pushes down...well there goes the wine....

Any ideas would be great!
Richard
Title: Wobbly Salon Table
Post by: Ron Hill on May 25, 2005, 06:30:29 PM
Richard : You need to figure out what is wobbling on the table.  It's either at the base where it connects to the floor, in the expandable column or the connection to the underside of the table itself.

I'll suspect/guess it's the bracket to the underside of the table.  I had to remove the table top (unscrew the top knob and lift it off the column).  I found that I had to fill the 6 screw holes with 5 min. epoxy and toothpick stubs and redrill the holes.  Once I re-tightened those screws everything was OK.
Title: Wobbly Salon Table
Post by: Ted Pounds on May 26, 2005, 06:07:36 AM
A month ago I did the same thing as Ron to my table.  I happened to find a screw on the sole and looked  up and saw it popped out from under the table.  After the epoxy job the table is nice and firm now.  :thumb:
Title: Wobbly Salon Table
Post by: Jon Schneider on May 26, 2005, 08:08:26 PM
Richard- I had a similar problem when I bought my boat last year, and discovered that the PO had put the sliding bracket that locks the tabletop in upside down.  It's not immediately noticeable, so it might be worth a try to invert the bracket.
Title: wobbly table
Post by: dpenz on May 27, 2005, 11:04:09 AM
Richard,

I had a similar problem.  I could tighten the clamp knob as hard as I could and still the table would wobble.  The only solution was to remove the entire post (both upper and lower parts) and ship the works to an outfit in Florida.  They repaired it promptly and at reasonable cost.  The clamping mechanism had broken.  It is not a repair that can be done on the boat or even in your home workshop, it takes special tools.

You must send all of the parts, except for the table top.  Let me know and I can dig out information on the repair shop.

David
Title: Wobbly Salon Table
Post by: John Langford on May 29, 2005, 08:37:06 PM
Interesting exchange. I just returned from a week of good sailing. When I checked the bilge after a long beat I found a s.s. washer and a nut (with an integral washer that I eventually discovered had fallen off the centre of the underside of the table leg assembly. I put it back on by feel (can't see the bolt because the bilge is too shallow under the table) but cannot do more than hand tighten it. The table is firm and the screws attaching it to the cabin sole are tight. Does anyone know the function of this nut and washer?
Title: Table out or table down position
Post by: David Arnold on May 30, 2005, 07:44:49 PM
Speaking of salon tables is there a way to remove the table altogether on a very temp basis say when the family wants to watch a movie and curl up without the table in the way?  Unable to remove the table altogether we tried dropping it to put he large cushion on and found that we could only drop the table to the level of the top of the cushions.  To drop it more would require removing all of the cushions as front of the cushion extends into the area under the table by about 1/2 inch or so on 3 sides.  Am I missing something simple?  By the way mine is a new 2005 model with ultra leather upholstery.
Title: Wobbly Salon Table
Post by: Roc on May 31, 2005, 05:08:45 AM
David,
My table is the same way, can't push it all the way down without removing the cushions.  Apparently, Catalina made the cushions just a hair too big.  I've always thought of trimming the circumference of the table down, but figured it wasn't worth it since I infrequently turn that area into a bunk.  It is a hassle to have to remove the cushions...I know what you mean.
Title: Wobbly Salon Table
Post by: Mike Smith on May 31, 2005, 07:15:19 AM
David -

I removed the table entirely a couple of years ago and have never put it back, although I could very easily.  With the table gone, the area makes a great conversation pit for raft-ups - we never had a "sit down" dinner on Breezer anyway!  You would not believe how much more room you have in the main salon with it out of the boat.  Just make sure the post is released and the table is all the way up - it is spring loaded and could cause some injury if it suddenly released with the table top removed.  Then take the table top off, the base unscrews or unbolts from the cabin sole - I can't remember which - and lifts off.  You could store the post and top in the aft cabin for quick re-installation, but I just took both of them and the cushion home.  I then installed a 4" Beckson inspection port where the base was, which could be covered up by a throw rug if it gets on your nerves.  I am considering installing a small "coffee table" on the mast somehow, just to hold drinks/snacks when jou need to talk with your hands, but that is way down my list of priorities right now.

Mike
Title: salon table wobble
Post by: isabel98 on May 31, 2005, 01:33:53 PM
The table wobbles because the knob used to secure it in the base is faulty . Remove the knob and go buy a 2 and one half inch bolt with the same thread, Crank it down with a little adjustable wrench (not too tight!). you'll find your table top a steady as you please. What happens is that the plastic knob head doesn't hold the bolt securely enough,  the bolt recedes into the knob so it's too short to secure the top. Keep the adjustable handy and, problem solved! You can even train the wife and kids to do it themselves.. 8)
Title: Wobbly Salon Table
Post by: David Arnold on May 31, 2005, 07:37:40 PM
Mike,
Thanks for the suggestion.  I was thinking about taking out the table altogether but fear the first mate will make a fuss as she likes to have meals down below sometimes.  I would be a happy camper if there were a way to remove the table on a temporary basis but it does not sound like that is in the cards given the present configuration.

David
Title: Wobbly Salon Table
Post by: Ron Hill on May 31, 2005, 07:45:16 PM
David : Look back in the old Tech Notes/Projects and you'll see that a number of us with the MKI larger tables made it into a drop leaf!!
A Thought.   :wink:
Title: dropping the table
Post by: Randy and Mary Davison on June 04, 2005, 06:50:33 AM
No need to take off the cushions to drop the table.  Lower to about a half inch or so above the cushions, hold with one hand, grab each cushion and pull up around table until it rests on top.  Lower table rest of way.  Takes way less time to do it than to tell about it.
Title: Table
Post by: amoreau on June 05, 2005, 05:52:20 PM
Hi,  Over the years we had to replace the table knob assy because it fell apart.  We also use the table as a bed more often than we like to.  What we did was take off about 1/2" all around the circumference.  We had a carpenter do it.  He had to sand and re-stain and seal the table again afterward.  The end result is that it was well worth the time and effort.  The table is effortless now to put down when making the bed.  No need to remove any cushions.
Title: Wobbly Salon Table
Post by: Stu Jackson on June 13, 2005, 03:04:14 PM
An earlier thread on this is:

http://www.c34.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1371&highlight=wine
Title: Wobbly Salon Table
Post by: Ron Hill on June 28, 2005, 06:21:40 PM
Richard : Did you ever figure out what was wobbling on your table???  :?:
Title: Wobbly Salon Table
Post by: Ron Hill on June 29, 2005, 06:24:46 PM
Quote from: RonRichard : Did you ever figure out what was wobbling on your table, or are you just going to keep us in suspense???  :?: