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Title: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: KeelsonGraham on August 26, 2021, 10:26:45 AM
Hi All,

I was pondering the default windlass arrangements on my new-to-me C34, L A Lady.

It strikes me as really dangerous to have my little pinkies so close to a running anchor chain. Especially as the clutch release method apparently sometimes results in a rapid anchor drop.

I noticed in other posts here that Iím not the only one who thinks this isnít safe. So, I plan to install a remote switch. My question is, do I need to fork out for the $130 Maxwell reversing solenoid, or will any old reversing solenoid designed for windlass size current draws be OK?
Title: Re: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: Ron Hill on August 26, 2021, 02:15:56 PM
Keel : I'll guess that you will need (if yours already doesn't have it?) a new solenoid on the motor for the ability to connect a down both a down and up switchs.

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Title: Re: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: KeelsonGraham on August 26, 2021, 03:06:14 PM
Hi Ron,

Looking at the diagram in the Maxwell manual I think I think all I need is need a reversing solenoid pack plus whatever switch I choose. The Maxwell switch is hugely expensive for something so simple so Iíll source something 3rd party.

I was wondering if the same applies for the reversing solenoid. I can get something for as little as $30 online which is quite a bit different from the $130-140 for Maxwellís own brand solenoid (also made in China).

Hence my question as to whether thereís a pressing reason to go with Maxwellís.
Title: Re: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: Ron Hill on August 26, 2021, 03:13:09 PM
Keel : Sorry about that!!  On my Lewmar windless motor solenoid there were already connection points for the Up as well as the Down switches. Guess I spoke out of turn!

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Title: Re: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: Jim Hardesty on August 26, 2021, 03:40:10 PM
The short answer is Yes.  I had a solenoid go bad and replaced it with one bought from a supply house.  But, if the Maxwell is a kit it may be worth it to get everything in a neat package and a high quality switch that will stand up to the elements.
Jim
Title: Re: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: Noah on August 26, 2021, 04:08:07 PM
I have a Maxwell 135 amp circuit breaker and foot switch, both new, unopened, if anyone wants them for FREEóJust pay shipping. They came with my new Maxwell VW10-8 windlass. Unfortunately I donít have an extra solenoid for you.
Title: Re: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: KeelsonGraham on August 28, 2021, 03:23:25 AM
OK, thank you all. To be on the safe side, Iím opting for the Maxwell solenoid. It looks pretty well built. If only it wasnít made in China.
Title: Re: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: Ron Hill on August 28, 2021, 09:19:08 AM
Keel : That's the best, because basically all the solenoid is doing is reversing the current so the motor runs the other way!!

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Title: Re: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: KeelsonGraham on October 13, 2021, 03:07:41 PM
OK, so I bought the Maxwell reversing solenoid. Now I need a wireless remote control to operate it.

Iím assuming that any manufacturerís remote will be OK? Because all itís doing is switching the low current side of a relay. The Lofrans one looks good.

Has anyone had any experience with this? Presumably thereís no particular reason to go with a Maxwell controller?
Title: Re: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: Ron Hill on October 13, 2021, 03:16:09 PM
Keel : Will just any remote operate your TV!!????  or use your DVD remote on your stereo!!!

I believe that you already know the answer to your question of a remote interfacing with your windlass!!

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Title: Re: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: KeelsonGraham on October 14, 2021, 01:51:01 AM
Hi Ron, thatís not a good analogy. When you buy a windlass remote kit you get both the transmitter and receiver. Clearly, these two will work together.

The (electrical) issue is whether the outputs from the receiver are in in way proprietary to the manufacturer. Iím guessing that they probably arenít.
Title: Re: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: waughoo on October 14, 2021, 07:52:50 AM
Keel is correct that the remote is independant of the brand of the windlass or its solenoid. They come with their own reciever which piggybacks onto the solonoid controls.  For example, I installed 2x warner hoists on a mast and boom of a 42' power boat for a dinghy crane and then used a Quick brand 4 button wireless remote to opperate it. 

My suggestion is to stay away from the low budget options for remotes.  When spec'ing out the above installation, I found a ton of low cost non marinized options, but none looked as though they would survive in the use case I had.  The Quick unit I installed had a floating remote with a nifty zip up lanyard to help avoid testing its ability to float!
Title: Re: Reversing Solenoid - Does It have to be a Maxwell one?
Post by: Ron Hill on October 14, 2021, 12:40:28 PM
Guys : Thanks, How would I have ever guessed that remotes are coded and there is a transmitter and a receiver that are dedicated to each other!!!!!???? 

Thanks, again  :shock: