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Title: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: pbyrne on August 02, 2021, 06:43:33 AM
Lost my diesel fuel cap overboard while refilling.

Need a replacement.  They are the stainless steel type.

Any suggestions where to get them? Catalina Direct doesn't seem to have a match.  Saw this on Amazon https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000XBMAOA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_i_G1QTDZTRCEQME4E1RAFP?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: Oldlaxer1 on August 02, 2021, 10:34:49 AM
I got this one from Catalina Direct.  (two for the water also)

https://www.catalinadirect.com/shop-by-boat/catalina-38/hull-deck/midship/deck-pipe-cap-diesel-stainless-steel/?SearchResults=1
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: pbyrne on August 02, 2021, 10:55:46 AM
Saw those.  However, I have the 2 prong style and CD mentions those are only a direct replacement for the plastic types due to thread pitch.
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: Noah on August 02, 2021, 11:55:04 AM
I would see if any of your other fill caps will fit. If they do, take that cap to a Chandlery and match the size/thread to a new cap. If you find one that fits and they won't sell just the cap aline, you may have to buy the whole fill pipe/cap set and toss the pipe.
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: KWKloeber on August 02, 2021, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: pbyrne on August 02, 2021, 10:55:46 AM

Saw those.  However, I have the 2 prong style and CD mentions those are only a direct replacement for the plastic types due to thread pitch.


Is it the full-cover type (CD type) or the insert type (sits inside, not covering the whole flange?)  A picture of the flange or similar fill cap?
It might be an Attwood or SeaChoice or SeaDog size/thread pitch.

If you have another similar fill, measure the pitch and diameter.  My "insert" type caps are Perko and the same as 1-1/2" NTP thread.
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: Ron Hill on August 02, 2021, 02:13:29 PM
pby : If you fail to find a SS cap that fits, just go ahead and change out the the entire fuel fill to a new one that has a chain that attaches to the cap!! 

It's not that difficult on a MK I C34, but on a MK II you might have to remove the aft cabin post side panel.

A thought
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: pbyrne on August 03, 2021, 05:32:07 AM


Is it the full-cover type (CD type) or the insert type (sits inside, not covering the whole flange?)  A picture of the flange or similar fill cap?
It might be an Attwood or SeaChoice or SeaDog size/thread pitch.

If you have another similar fill, measure the pitch and diameter.  My "insert" type caps are Perko and the same as 1-1/2" NTP thread.
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Looks identical to this.  The screw fell out of the retaining clip, and of course, before I can get a new screw the cap goes over board...

https://www.thechandleryonline.com/product_info.php?products_id=4723
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: pbyrne on August 03, 2021, 05:33:34 AM
Quote from: Ron Hill on August 02, 2021, 02:13:29 PM
pby : If you fail to find a SS cap that fits, just go ahead and change out the the entire fuel fill to a new one that has a chain that attaches to the cap!! 

It's not that difficult on a MK I C34, but on a MK II you might have to remove the aft cabin post side panel.

A thought

It might come to that! :)  I've had the panel off before so I believe the access is good.
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: KWKloeber on August 03, 2021, 04:39:14 PM
Quote from: pbyrne on August 03, 2021, 05:32:07 AM

Looks identical to this. 

https://www.thechandleryonline.com/product_info.php?products_id=4723


OK, that's the insert type -- same as mine.  They sure look like the Perko, but mine are black plastic not stainless.
Is it 1-1/4 NPT? (I THOUGHT mine are 1-1/2" NPT but maybe I'm mistaken.)

Measure what thread they are to narrow it down -- Perko and Whitecap and Seadog and Attwood all look similar but I believe some are 1-1/4 vs 1-1/2".
No sense guessing which to buy.  worst marine, ebay, scamazon all have them -- once you decide on the size.
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: Stu Jackson on August 03, 2021, 08:34:40 PM
Doesn't the link say this?

Stainless steel deck fill marked for gas. Uses 1-1/2" hose, 1-1/4"NPT CAP.
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: KWKloeber on August 03, 2021, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: Stu Jackson on August 03, 2021, 08:34:40 PM
Doesn't the link say this?

Stainless steel deck fill marked for gas. Uses 1-1/2" hose, 1-1/4"NPT CAP.

Stu
Yep, but he said:  "it LOOKS identical."  Not, "it has the same thread as mine."

Spoiler alert  :shock: These four caps LOOK like his (and mine) but they have four DIFFERENT threads. 


(https://marinepartssource.com/media/catalog/product/cache/5fb6dfe37e98ca467e76f28a8de5af3e/w/c/wc6167_lg.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71el2Ul-+OL._AC_SX569_.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51lH3sH6VgL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71JtzsnfFNL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)

I'd have to think it makes sense to measure rather than guess from a picture :cry4`
but as always, his boat his choice.
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: pbyrne on August 04, 2021, 07:47:38 AM
Quote from: KWKloeber on August 03, 2021, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: Stu Jackson on August 03, 2021, 08:34:40 PM
Doesn't the link say this?

Stainless steel deck fill marked for gas. Uses 1-1/2" hose, 1-1/4"NPT CAP.

Stu
Yep, but he said:  "it LOOKS identical."  Not, "it has the same thread as mine."

Spoiler alert  :shock: These four caps LOOK like his (and mine) but they have four DIFFERENT threads. 


(https://marinepartssource.com/media/catalog/product/cache/5fb6dfe37e98ca467e76f28a8de5af3e/w/c/wc6167_lg.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71el2Ul-+OL._AC_SX569_.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51lH3sH6VgL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71JtzsnfFNL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)

I'd have to think it makes sense to measure rather than guess from a picture :cry4`
but as always, his boat his choice.

The local chandlery has something I can at least compare.  I'll pull one from the water tanks, which I know are the same as I checked, and match it up.  If that doesn't work I'll use a more science based approach and measure it! :)
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: KWKloeber on August 04, 2021, 08:17:33 AM
PB

You could alternately take one to a big box and see which female threaded pipe fitting it screws into.  Or vice versa, buy 1-1/2 and 1-1/4 male fittings and see which fits the deck fitting.  The other common sizes are 1-7/8" and metric, but I'd think those are way outside chances.
Good luck!  Let us know.
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: pbyrne on August 04, 2021, 12:02:56 PM
Quote from: KWKloeber on August 04, 2021, 08:17:33 AM
PB

You could alternately take one to a big box and see which female threaded pipe fitting it screws into.  Or vice versa, buy 1-1/2 and 1-1/4 male fittings and see which fits the deck fitting.  The other common sizes are 1-7/8" and metric, but I'd think those are way outside chances.
Good luck!  Let us know.

Great suggestion! Thanks!
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: mdidomenico on August 05, 2021, 04:41:27 PM
i remembered i had this in the garage, it came of my Mk1 when i pulled all the deck fills (i think, or it might have been in a spare parts box from the PO).  if it fits, you're welcome to it
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: pbyrne on August 06, 2021, 05:56:20 AM
Quote from: mdidomenico on August 05, 2021, 04:41:27 PM
i remembered i had this in the garage, it came of my Mk1 when i pulled all the deck fills (i think, or it might have been in a spare parts box from the PO).  if it fits, you're welcome to it

Thank you for the offer!  I suspect the shipping would make it a wash with a new one.  I was able to get a replacement at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: pbyrne on August 06, 2021, 05:59:40 AM
I was able to find a perfect match.  Pictures attached.  It was listed as a BMS Product but I there is no matching information on the box.  Sorry I don't know the thread information.  I just took a chance.

Title: Re: Replacement stainless steel fuel cap
Post by: KWKloeber on August 06, 2021, 11:21:05 AM
Very cool, AND on sale.  :clap :clap :thumb:

It's 1-1/2" NPT thread.
Just for the archives here's one brand that will replace just the cap:

Whitecap 6061C Replacement Deck Fill Cap
Whitecap Replacement Cap & Chain f/6123, 6123, 6125 & 6126 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TZLFNLQ