I have four golf cart batteries (Duracell 115 amp hour from Batteries Plus) charged by Xantrex Truecharge 40. This season I didn't have to add any distilled water. Previous seasons rarely. Is this your experience?
Main difference between this season is I didn't discharge the batteries as deeply. Even though I used the boat more for day sails I used it less for overnight trips.
Kyle : I'm not a flooded battery expert at all, but I've always been told never to let the plates become exposed and always use distilled water to bring up the fluid level!!
Personally, I always add water when I see the level is below the indicated full mark.
A few thoughts
I top mine off with distilled water on a regular basis. I use a handheld automatic battery filler can that I bought at NAPA. An example PN I found online is BK 7001161.
I have the same battery filler and love it. Just place the spout in the battery opening, push down and hold until it stops gurgling and the cell is perfectly filled.
Quote from: Jon W on October 31, 2020, 06:13:33 PM
I top mine off with distilled water on a regular basis. I use a handheld automatic battery filler can that I bought at NAPA. An example PN I found online is BK 7001161.
I check my batteries weekly. Top off as necessary often only once a season.
Some of the things I was told about batteries when I was a kid I am now told is wrong. ie don't store batteries on cement floor. So I may be incorrect. Was told to top off the batteries before charging, not after. Don't add a lot of water without charging. Always use distilled water. Top off to just below or at the plastic ring/slot that's about an inch below the battery top. Keep the cells at the same level. It's been my experience when batteries start needing filled more often they are getting tired and will need to be replaced soon. Here is some good information about flooded cells, voltage and hydrometers
https://rollsbattery.com/public/docs/user_manual/Rolls_Battery_Manual.pdf
Jim
Thanks, all. My water check is to make sure water is "just above" the plates and to add a little water when close. The Rolls article Jim shared reminded me "just above" is really 1/4-1/2". I ordered a filter to be more precise with water level.
The idea that batteries need more water when tired is also good information. It explains why I'm not adding as much water to these newer batteries as I was to my previous seven year old batteries.
Jim,
I've heard most of these things over the years as well, I can't say for sure weather these ideas are good advice or old wives tales. Other than keeping the water level above the plates I can't say one way or the other if any of these things really make a difference. BTW, I check my batteries monthly and top up as necessary.
Occasionally equalize them. How often is in dispute, (one month to once a year) depending on who/what you read. After 6 years and gradually dwindling performance, I finally equalized mine yesterday using the 4-hour Equalize setting on my Pronautlc P 1250 charger and they appear to be back to 100% efficiency.
Noah,
That's a new one on me, I've never heard of equalizing batteries before.
To the best of my knowledge, you an only equalize "flooded, lead acid" batteries.
QuoteOccasionally equalize them. How often is in dispute, (one month to once a year) depending on who/what you read.
I equalize when the specific gravity (hydrometer) readings vary between cells. And every spring. Years ago I bought a good hydrometer, glass with the little floating gage, then made up a good case from plumbing pvc parts. I think the specific gravity readings tell a lot about the health of the battery. Fits well in the space outboard of the water heater, along with distilled water and filler. For a filler I use a plastic squeeze bottle that's kept in a plastic zipbag to keep clean.
Jim
I've still got the original Lewco battery charger that came with my boat, so there's no equalize setting. I always thought when hooked to shore power the charger would just bring all batteries up to topped up level, so in effect all would be equalized, I could be wrong though.
Gunner- here is an article on "Equalizing" why and how, that you and others may find helpful.
https://shop.pkys.com/Battery-Equalization_ep_44.html
Much more info out there. Check your battery brand's website too.
Guys : I switched to AGM batteries and have been able to forget about all of the fluid and maintenance - other than making sure of good battery connections!!
A thought
Jim, what brand hydrometer did you buy? The only one I could find was cheap and I never could get the same reading twice when checking a cell.
Quote from: Jim Hardesty on November 02, 2020, 04:49:38 AM
QuoteOccasionally equalize them. How often is in dispute, (one month to once a year) depending on who/what you read.
I equalize when the specific gravity (hydrometer) readings vary between cells. And every spring. Years ago I bought a good hydrometer, glass with the little floating gage, then made up a good case from plumbing pvc parts. I think the specific gravity readings tell a lot about the health of the battery. Fits well in the space outboard of the water heater, along with distilled water and filler. For a filler I use a plastic squeeze bottle that's kept in a plastic zipbag to keep clean.
Jim
Quotewhat brand hydrometer did you buy?
Ken,
I don't recall, it's similar to this one.
https://www.amazon.com/Mighty-Max-Battery-Hydrometer-product/dp/B00NCWAPEY/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=Battery+Hydrometer&qid=1604405346&sr=8-9
Any good auto parts store should have them. I saw hits on google for utube how-to's. For me important thing is readings between cells and comparing to old readings. I take readings in the spring, may be a couple of times over a couple of weeks, then only if I'm suspicious of the batteries.
I may visit Shamrock next couple of days, will try to remember to take pictures of my plumbing pvc case.
Jim
Thanks Noah, you learn something new everyday.
Thanks for the info and the link Jim. My lack of trust with the instrument stemmed from test the same cell 3 times and getting a different reading each time. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of specialized technique involved. Place tube in cell, squeeze bulb to pull electrolyte in - keep hydrometer vertical and read.
Hi Jim.
Great idea of making a case out of PVC pipe!! I never knew how I should store the hydrometer with battery acid on it. Thanks for the tip!!
A couple of pictures. Also notice the well rinsed Arizona tea jug for the distilled water. More rugged than the jugs distilled water comes in, and a refreshing beverage.
Jim
I also check my batteries weekly for levels. Every season I disconnect all cables and check the voltage in each battery and record this in my log book.
Paul
PS: My wife and I spend 7 weeks sailing on Lake Michigan and also around Drummond Island and the St. Mary's river. Missed the North Channel.