Just made an offer on a 2000 C34 MkII. So nervous and so excited. Can't wait to hear back from the seller. This wait is agonizing!
I hope you get your boat, but if you don't get that one relax it's not the end of the world, there are a lot of them out there.
Being a reasonably new 34 MKII owner, I can relate to that excitement so fingers crossed for you!
Not sure about "lots of them out there"!
But don't let the excitement cloud your vision. Make sure to have it surveyed and checkout the "Critical upgrades" list on this site. Great reference for what's been done and what needs to be done.
Quote from: Jim Lucas on September 04, 2020, 08:38:10 AM
But don't let the excitement cloud your vision. Make sure to have it surveyed and checkout the "Critical upgrades" list on this site. Great reference for what's been done and what needs to be done.
Too late! People even said "Make sure you check out the critical upgrades" and I didn't. There's so much right with this boat that I let it cloud my judgement. It's in great condition inside and out. However there will be a survey and sea trial, so that will give me a chance to calm down and check it out. Still no response...
We saw another Mk.II, but it wasn't in as good condition and was initially priced higher. And that's about all there is where I am (unless I want to get something shipped)
grm : There are about 1300 MKI and about 600 MkII C34s out there. Just be patient!
A thought
Quote from: girmann on September 04, 2020, 08:47:45 AM
Quote from: Jim Lucas on September 04, 2020, 08:38:10 AM
But don't let the excitement cloud your vision. Make sure to have it surveyed and checkout the "Critical upgrades" list on this site. Great reference for what's been done and what needs to be done.
Too late! People even said "Make sure you check out the critical upgrades" and I didn't. There's so much right with this boat that I let it cloud my judgement...
I hope you get the boat. It's a great design.
Don't let the critical upgrades scare you too much. Many (but not all) of the critical issues were fixed by 2000 model year. It can be a little confusing because some of the warnings
in big red letters don't actually apply to many of the later model boats.
QuoteDon't let the critical upgrades scare you too much. Many (but not all) of the critical issues were fixed by 2000 model year. It can be a little confusing because some of the warnings in big red letters don't actually apply to many of the later model boats.
That's how I found Shamrock to be. Hopefully the previous owner kept a maintenance log and you can just check off as done. The only critical one that comes to mind that may take some effort to check is a bushing for the raw water pump shaft. FWIW Shamrocks was done.
It's good to check them all for yourself anything you are not sure about, just ask here.
Hope all works well.
Jim
Girmann,
Right now you've got a lot of balls in the air so I wouldn't worry to much about the critical upgrades at this point. Once you take possession you'll have time to check for and remedy ant CUs that haven't already been addressed. Along with the CUs you're going to have a long, long list of "Things To Do" to make this boat your own.
BTW, 700 boats sounds like a lot to me.
Quote from: scgunner on September 05, 2020, 07:52:56 AM
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BTW, 700 boats sounds like a lot to me.
There were 1,801 Catalina 34s made. The change over to the Mark IIs began around the mid-1100 hull numbers. Guess ya could do the math? :D
Didn't do the math, I just took Ron at his word since he seems to be a pretty knowledgeable guy. I read an article a while back about Bill Lee of Santa Cruz Yachts fame, it said he built 10 SC40s, that doesn't seem like very many boats to me.
Well, they accepted our offer with a closing on the 28th. Now to schedule the survey, fill out the paperwork, and write the check...
BTW - it looks like this is hull #1488. "Dun Wish'n". I don't see a lot of posts from any of the owners. Anyone know anything about this hull?
I've never heard of #1488, "Dun Wish'n" but that doesn't really mean anything, on my dock there are four C34 Mk 1s in a row between my boat and the shore. None of those guys are C34 IA members nor do they seem to have any interest in becoming members. All of their boats however are very well taken care of.
Where is your home port?
Alamitos Bay Marina, Long Beach, CA.
Kevin : If you need an EXACT number I believe there were 1294 MK I C34 hulls built and 507 MK II C34 hulls built.
I went onboard hull #1295 at the Atlantic City SailExpo Boat Show to look at it as the 1st MK II C34.
The mold for the C34 burned sometime around 1994? and I assume that Catalina resumed their numbering from the MK I's built to the new MKII !?!
Hope this helps, A thought
Quote from: Ron Hill on September 07, 2020, 02:47:15 PM
The mold for the C34 burned sometime around 1994? and I assume that Catalina resumed their numbering from the MK I's built to the new MKII !?!
Ron,
Wait. What???
Quote from: Stu Jackson on September 05, 2020, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: scgunner on September 05, 2020, 07:52:56 AM
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BTW, 700 boats sounds like a lot to me.
There were 1,801 Catalina 34s made. The change over to the Mark IIs began around the mid-1100 hull numbers. Guess ya could do the math? :D
I was wrong. The tech wiki has the first Mark II as hull #1295.
https://c34.org/wikiwp/?rdp_we_resource=http%3A%2F%2Fc34.org%2Fwiki%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DEvolution_of_the_Catalina_34
Thanks for the info Ron, but while interesting I'm not really interested in exact numbers. Weather it's 500 or 700 that's still a lot of boats, there are seven on my dock alone. My original point to girmann was that if failing to close the deal on this one that there is generally a good selection of boats on the market at any given time due to the large number of hulls produced.
grm : I personally like the larger Vberth of the MK I. Especially when you consider that you spend more than 50% of your time on the boat in a berth - that's why the MK I layout is my #1 choice!! 8)
A thought
Quote from: Ron Hill on September 08, 2020, 01:41:18 PM
grm : I personally like the larger Vberth of the MK I. Especially when you consider that you spend more than 50% of your time on the boat in a berth - that's why the MK I layout is my #1 choice!! 8)
I didn't look at many C34s before selecting the one that we bought, so I haven't seen the interior of a MkI. In what way is its V-berth larger? Sailboatdata.com seems to show the exact same size for both layouts.
C34(https://sailboatdata.com/storage/images/sailboat/drawing/catalina_34_drawing.jpg)
C34MkII(https://sailboatdata.com/storage/images/sailboat/drawing/catalina_34_mkii_drawing.jpg)
Quote from: Breakin Away on September 08, 2020, 02:24:15 PM
I didn't look at many C34s before selecting the one that we bought, so I haven't seen the interior of a MkI. In what way is its V-berth larger? Sailboatdata.com seems to show the exact same size for both layouts.
Rick, you're right. The only difference is that the 2 cabinets on the Mark IIs are higher than on the Mark I boats, so there is nowhere to place books and other stuff when you're in the berth.
FYI, Dunn Wish'In is listed in the Owner Directory of Sailboatowners.com, but the registered owner had no posts on that website. Also, C34IA is infinitely more informative and helpful than Sailboatowners.com
Quote from: Stu Jackson on September 08, 2020, 04:30:44 PM
Rick, you're right. The only difference is that the 2 cabinets on the Mark IIs are higher than on the Mark I boats, so there is nowhere to place books and other stuff when you're in the berth.
Thanks for clarifying. I hadn't noticed a problem. I guess I'll have to move all my books and other stuff. 😜
Quote from: Breakin Away on September 08, 2020, 06:32:20 PM
Quote from: Stu Jackson on September 08, 2020, 04:30:44 PM
Rick, you're right. The only difference is that the 2 cabinets on the Mark IIs are higher than on the Mark I boats, so there is nowhere to place books and other stuff when you're in the berth.
Thanks for clarifying. I hadn't noticed a problem. I guess I'll have to move all my books and other stuff. 😜
I was only pointing out the differences that I have personally seen. I'm sure you can use your boat to your maximum benefit. :D It's just a minor difference. Perhaps you'll find a chance to see one of our old boats for yourself. :D
Quote from: Rortega46 on September 08, 2020, 04:59:26 PM
FYI, Dunn Wish'In is listed in the Owner Directory of Sailboatowners.com, but the registered owner had no posts on that website. Also, C34IA is infinitely more informative and helpful than Sailboatowners.com
Thanks Randy!
A totally unscientific observation, my neighbor with a Mk II graciously allowed me to tour his boat, it was beautiful but it seemed slightly smaller and with less freeboard that may or may not be true.
BTW, I recently went aboard a friend's new C380, Oh My Gosh! that thing was cavernous!