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Title: Universal M25 diesel problems
Post by: frogdoc58 on July 03, 2020, 06:47:35 PM
Hi All,

I have an '89 Catalina 34 with a Universal M 25 diesel.  On the top of the engine next to the coolant tank is what appears to be a crankcase vent.  Currently when the engine is running there is an oily vaper coming out of it.  The vent has threads, maybe 1/2 inch JIC.

My questions are, is the discharge normal if so is there supposed to be a vent hose attached and if so where does it got to?  Also, when I put my finger over it, pressure builds up.

Can anyone give me some advice.

Thanks,  Paul
Title: Re: Universal M25 diesel problems
Post by: Jon W on July 03, 2020, 07:48:42 PM
Most of us connect a hose and route it to discharge into the engine air filter. Depending the type of air filter some tie wrap the hose to the injector tubing, some drill a hole in the top of the air filter and attach a hose fitting to connect the hose, and some have routed the hose to an air/oil separator then to the air filter.
Title: Re: Universal M25 diesel problems
Post by: Stu Jackson on July 03, 2020, 08:38:12 PM
Paul, welcome.  Here's what Jon was talking about:

Breather Hose 101 (w/ K&N Filter Pictures from Rick Allen)

http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8875.msg63915.html#msg63915

and Noah's:  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8858.msg64297.html#msg64297
Title: Re: Universal M25 diesel problems
Post by: frogdoc58 on July 03, 2020, 08:42:33 PM
Wow, that's a great solution.  I will be getting right on it in a few days.

Thank you very much.

Stay safe and have a great sailing summer, well as best as you can right now.

Regards, Paul
Title: Re: Universal M25 diesel problems
Post by: KWKloeber on July 03, 2020, 08:59:38 PM
Quote from: frogdoc58 on July 03, 2020, 06:47:35 PM


is the discharge normal if so is there supposed to be a vent hose attached and if so where does it got to?  Also, when I put my finger over it, pressure builds up.



Paul

Look at pg 12 of your M25 parts manual that I know you have downloaded and keep handy.  It shows the vent hose (which OEM just hangs into the bilge.)

There shouldn't he a huge amt of oil/gunk come out at any one time but over time it will and will stink up the bilge/boat.  This has been covered many times on the forum if you do a search.

Yes the will be a slight pressure but if you have excessive pressure/oil/gunk you could have excessive ring blowby (check the engine compression.)

If you check the tech wiki site under >>engine<< there are a few suggestions how to route the crankcase vent to the air intake.  Below is mine.  Another way not discussed is to drill. tap, and use a hose barb on the intake manifold.  The XPB has a knockout on the intake manifold to accept the crankcase vent hose.

-ken
Title: Re: Universal M25 diesel problems
Post by: frogdoc58 on July 15, 2020, 10:16:56 AM
Thank you all for your help.  I made the modification.  No more smoke and oil mist coming into the engine compartment.
I'm sure that I am getting excessive blow by, rings, but for now I will get through the season.

Cheers for now,

Paul
Title: Re: Universal M25 diesel problems
Post by: Ron Hill on July 15, 2020, 12:20:09 PM
Ken : Have you looked at the belt alignment in your picture??   :shock:

A thought
Title: Re: Universal M25 diesel problems
Post by: frogdoc58 on July 16, 2020, 08:20:03 AM
That's not my actual engine.  But I do see what you are seeing, the belt looks to be upside down.  Good eye.
Title: Re: Universal M25 diesel problems
Post by: KWKloeber on July 16, 2020, 12:41:39 PM
Ron: That's an OLD pic and I think there's a slight fisheye effect from the lens, but I will check it.  THX!!
I plan some upgrading so it may be moot soon.


Paul:  I find that my belt rides MUCH better when it's turned inside-out.***
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***(Actually it's a dayco "top cog," recommended for our small alternator pulley.) 


Title: Re: Universal M25 diesel problems
Post by: Ron Hill on July 16, 2020, 02:22:04 PM
Paul : FYI, the cogs on the belt are for - Cooling.

A thought