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Title: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: rmbrown on February 20, 2017, 09:13:30 AM
First, I just purchased my C34 a little less than a month ago, so I'm a newbie to this forum.  I've already found it to be incredibly useful and appreciate the info that's already captured here.  I'm going to ask a question that may well already be addressed but that I didn't find with a search.  I won't be offended by a link or search term that might get me there rather than having the conversation over again here!

As part of a comprehensive bilge cleaning effort, I started all the way aft and found that I had water sitting where the shaft leaves the hull.  I'm currently on the hard so I got in there and scrubbed where I could reach and hosed it out, expecting the water to drain to the bilge.  I was surprised when it instead filled the sump under the engine and threatened to overflow onto the floor boards.  I got the water out with a shop vac but I'm wondering if that's by design or whether I have some weep holes that are clogged.  Words of wisdom?

Mike Brown
1993 C34 Just Limin'
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: Noah on February 20, 2017, 09:43:17 AM
Try searching "limber holes".
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: rmbrown on February 20, 2017, 09:58:14 AM
Well, I appreciate the reminder of the term, and I learned a lot, but I'm still befuddled.  I do have the limber hold from the v-berth locker into the bilge and I do have them underneath all flooring panels, but I'm not sure where they'd be between the shaft log/engine area and the bilge.  Under the flooring?  I crawled around and took pictures as far as I could reach but I'm coming up short.

Mike
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: Noah on February 20, 2017, 10:10:16 AM
I am a Mk I owner. So some MkIi owners should respond. I do recall a factory drawing/bulletin and some discussion here about drilling these/more holes under the engine bed but I don't recall where. Someone will respond I'm sure.
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: Noah on February 20, 2017, 10:28:00 AM
Maybe this?
http://www.c34.org/faq-pages/faq-drainhole.html
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: Dave Spencer on February 20, 2017, 10:29:21 AM
Hi Mike,
Welcome to the forum.  There should be limber holes to allow drainage of drips from the stuffing box (for those of us who don't have dripless packing) to flow to the main bilge area.  Here's a couple of links including one showing a drawing for MkII boats.  Based on the year of your boat, I suspect you are close to my hull number so you and I have Mk 1.5 configuration that has some of the features of MkII boats.
http://c34.org/bbs/index.php?topic=5209.0 (http://c34.org/bbs/index.php?topic=5209.0)
http://www.c34.org/faq-pages/faq-drainhole.html (http://www.c34.org/faq-pages/faq-drainhole.html)
Hopefully some probing with a flashlight and a coat hanger will open up the small limber holes.


Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: rmbrown on February 20, 2017, 10:52:47 AM
You folks rock.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: lazybone on February 20, 2017, 10:57:29 AM
Yes we do.
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: Dave S on March 05, 2017, 05:24:50 PM
I had the same problem when I bought my new-to-me 2000 MkII. Water puddled under the shaft and then overflowed past the engine and onto the cabin sole. I noticed water stains at the base of the teak engine compartment panels and figured I'd have to drill the hole described in the paper that Noah posted. After getting my face right next to the transmission (not easy), I discovered a clogged limber hole. Here's hoping you will too.
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: rmbrown on March 06, 2017, 03:05:30 AM
Thanks!  I'm inspired to climb in and look closer. :)
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: Jim Hardesty on March 07, 2017, 06:57:20 AM
I also had some limber holes blocked from saw dust and small wood and fiberglass chips.  In my quest for a very dry bilge a keep a kitchen type block sponge under the shaft log packing seal.  Stays there well and catches the drips from the seal. Traps them there long enough to evaporate. 
Jim
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: rmbrown on March 07, 2017, 09:57:59 AM
If anyone has pictures of said limber holes, I'd be grateful.  I hate to drill holes where none are needed but I'm not seeing anything!
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: rmbrown on May 20, 2017, 08:33:26 PM
Well, I found my missing limber hole.  I can get a screwdriver about 1.5 inches, then it stops hard, almost as if someone started drilling and stopped.
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: rmbrown on May 22, 2017, 06:39:31 PM
Assuming that either that hole is clogged or it never got completely drilled.  I guess I'll just buy a long bit and keep it angled parallel to the bottom?
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: Braxton on May 22, 2017, 08:18:17 PM
Does anyone know if there is any coring in that stringer?   I am not on the boat and I don't remember if the stringer is thick enough to have anything inside.    If it does then drilling out the hole may be a bad idea.
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: Ken Juul on May 23, 2017, 04:58:19 AM
before you drill more, pour some water and see if it drains.  I think you might be hitting the floor of the engine compartment which is part of the liner not the hull.
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: rmbrown on May 23, 2017, 05:08:18 AM
Oh, it's definitely not draining... I had to bail it out to take the picture!
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: Ken Juul on May 24, 2017, 06:31:40 AM
was that before or after you opened up the hole?
Title: Re: Bilge Drainage From Area Under Stuffing Box
Post by: rmbrown on May 24, 2017, 06:50:49 AM
Can't open hole.  It's clear for about 1.5 inches then fully obstructed.  I can't determine if it was never drilled all the way through or if it's just a solid clock.  I'm hesitant to put a drill bit in there until I know what I'm dealing with.  Emails exchanged with Catalina but no final answer yet.