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Title: Struck by lightning!
Post by: porkchop on July 23, 2015, 09:29:43 AM
My boat was struck by lightning almost a year ago.  I'm based at Merritt Island, FLorida.  There was a fire in the cabin which fire crews were able to get out quickly.  Anyway the cabin batteries are gone (melted by the fire) and all the wiring is pretty much fried.

I bought a new starter battery and tried to start the engine, but the wiring there was fried too.  I've replaced the wiring harness and a fuse and several other pieces.  I eventually got the engine to turn over and start, but the alternator caught fire.  So, where I am right now is... looking for an alternator for a Universal engine M-25XP.  The boat was built in 1987.  Where is the best place to find a new or rebuilt alternator.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: dfloeter on July 23, 2015, 10:03:02 AM
I have on that that came on our boat you can have for shipping.  The foot is the 2" for a Universal.    It would likely be a get by alternator at only 39 amps, but the price is right.
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: porkchop on July 23, 2015, 11:39:23 AM
Thanks for the offer, dfloeter.  I may take you up on that if I can't find a new or rebuilt one anywhere.
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: KWKloeber ‘84 C-30 #3573 on July 23, 2015, 12:50:52 PM

What's your OEM Alt? - 51 amp? 75 amp?  internal sense?  External sense?
The model no is stamped on the side of the frame, up front (pulley end.)

Ken
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: porkchop on July 23, 2015, 01:39:27 PM
Sorry, I don't have all that, KWKloeber.  A thief stole the alternator after it was off the engine.  Actually he was going to go check out a boat shop for a replacement, but he disappeared on me, so I no longer have the unit.  Whatever the stock unit was in 1987.
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: Ron Hill on July 23, 2015, 01:50:36 PM
Pork : You OEM alternator should have been a 51 amp Motorola.
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: porkchop on July 23, 2015, 02:37:59 PM
Thanks for the info, Ron!
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: KWKloeber ‘84 C-30 #3573 on July 23, 2015, 04:45:01 PM
Quote from: porkchop on July 23, 2015, 01:39:27 PM
Sorry, I don't have all that, KWKloeber.  A thief stole the alternator after it was off the engine.  Actually he was going to go check out a boat shop for a replacement, but he disappeared on me, so I no longer have the unit.  Whatever the stock unit was in 1987.

M-25s and XPs were built with a std 51 amp (8MR model series alternator) or an optional 72? amp w. external sense.
How many wires were connected to the alt?

Ken
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: porkchop on July 24, 2015, 04:40:50 AM
I think there were four, Ken, but I'd have to go down to the marina a count them to be sure.
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: Stu Jackson on July 24, 2015, 05:58:19 PM
pc,

Here's a source of all different alternators:

http://www.ase-supply.com/Leece_Neville_110_603_12V_90_amp_ALTERNATOR_p/mo-110-603.htm (http://www.ase-supply.com/Leece_Neville_110_603_12V_90_amp_ALTERNATOR_p/mo-110-603.htm)

You might also want to check the C34 Tech wiki under engines AND electrical, to find more sources.

Also click on the Support Maine Sail sticky topic, and go to his website.

There's also more info on alternators in the Electrical Systems 101 topic.

Given your strike, you should be suspect of ALL of your wiring.

Good luck.

Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: KWKloeber ‘84 C-30 #3573 on July 24, 2015, 08:20:49 PM
Quote from: porkchop on July 24, 2015, 04:40:50 AM
I think there were four, Ken, but I'd have to go down to the marina a count them to be sure.

Theoretically, depending on the model and wiring, you could have 3, 4, or 5 - best to double check (color or purpose of each would help)

Ken
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: porkchop on July 25, 2015, 12:42:59 AM
Thanks for the info, Stu,  I do suspect all my wiring.  Every time I've inspected anything so far, I've had to replace it.  Evidently lightning can generate so much heat, it can cause insulation to just evaporate!  I've got bare wires and wires that are welded together in some places, but at least all my engine wiring is good now.

I'll check out the sites you mentioned.
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: KWKloeber ‘84 C-30 #3573 on July 26, 2015, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: porkchop on July 25, 2015, 12:42:59 AM
Thanks for the info, Stu,  I do suspect all my wiring.  Every time I've inspected anything so far, I've had to replace it. 

How do you know the engine wiring, harness, panel, etc. are good?

Ken
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: porkchop on July 27, 2015, 05:14:38 AM
Replaced!  Reference first post.

Greg
Title: Re: Struck by lightning!
Post by: KWKloeber ‘84 C-30 #3573 on July 27, 2015, 07:02:49 AM
Quote from: porkchop on July 27, 2015, 05:14:38 AM
Replaced!  Reference first post.

Greg

Ooops, sorry missed that!

Have you been following the thread about the harness wiring and ?

-  A fuse on the power feed to the cockpit.
-  The fuse on the "S" wire to the solenoid.
-  Moving the battery negative cable to a starter bolt.
-  Heavy Alternator B+ cable to the solenoid "B" post.
-  Alternator B- cable to the engine block (or better yet to a negative bus bar [along w/ the harness negative wire].)


Cheers,
Ken