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Title: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Ralph Masters on August 08, 2013, 08:04:08 AM
Getting ready to install an anchor windlas on the boat, an 87 MkI.  The question I have  is how much space, if any, is there between the aft bulkhead of the anchor locker and the wood panel in the V berth?  I have not removed that wood panel yet but I think there is another fiber glass panel under that. The cabin liner maybe.  I have looked the photos posted of how others have done it and they all look VERY nice with the stailless backing plate  against the wood panel.  I am going to do the same, and have made up the same type of backing plate, but if there is space to put it hidden then that is the route I'd like to take (higher authority directive).  BTW I am installing a Lewmar V-700.

Thank you,

Ralph
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Ron Hill on August 08, 2013, 01:32:00 PM
Ralph : When I did mine there was no open space between the teak covered panel, the plywood panel and the thin fiberglass of the anchor well "pan".
I had a friend that has a 1989 C34 who had about an inch space!

You aren't going to know the answer to your question until you pull the wood panels on YOUR boat.

my thought
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Ralph Masters on August 08, 2013, 02:26:58 PM
Thank you Ron, I knew it was a long shot asking but I had to ask.  I'll keep the group posted on progress

Ralph
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: TonyP on August 08, 2013, 02:53:01 PM
On ours There is less space at the top. The right one will fit in but placement is the key.
I have attached our anchor winch as viewed without front bulkhead. I am not sure if your well is the same.
This installation was by a PO. Though last year we had it overhauled. I would love to add a down switch.
There should be a pic in an earlier post of inside our well from above.
Good luck
Tony


Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Ron Hill on August 08, 2013, 05:10:00 PM
Guys : Remember that the anchor wells' of the 1986/1987/1988s (about 900 hulls) is completely different than the 1989s and subsequent C34s !!!
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: TonyP on August 09, 2013, 04:03:48 AM
Ron

Thanx for that. I would not have known.

cheers

Tony
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: 2ndwish on August 09, 2013, 07:38:50 AM
Ralph- If you are trying to hide the backing plate, you can remove the decorative bulkhead, route out as much as you need and put the backing plate on the structural plywood bulkhead right behind the locker. The decorative bulkhead is pretty thick. There are plusses and minuses to both approaches. I like the exposed nuts so that I can tell if it starts to leak. On the other hand, that decorative bulkhead was not intended to be structural, as a result, in our boat we noticed that it will creak since the installation, presumably where it is rubbing against the hull liner. What to they say...your boat your call
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Bobg on August 09, 2013, 12:26:25 PM
Ralph, I too am investigating installing a winch,  where did you purchase your lewmar v-700?  Also does anyone know how far down in the anchor locker should the mounting plate be installed so you can close the doors.  I guess I should purchase the winch and see but I want to make the bracket mount ahead of time.
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Ron Hill on August 09, 2013, 04:47:40 PM
Bob : If you'll take some time to read my installation of a V700 in the anchor well of a 1988 C34 you'll find a bunch of answers.

Look in WiKi /Mainsheet tech notes or Projects on our web site.  A thought
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Ralph Masters on August 11, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
I googled the V-700 and shopped around on the net and found one price at 573, so I bought it.  I also bought the heavy duty reversing solinoid and a hand held remote vice the foot switches.  I'll have to look back in my bank records and come up with the name of the place I bought it through.
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Ron Hill on August 11, 2013, 02:38:33 PM
Guys : Another thing to point out on the anchor well differences is the 1989 and subsequent production years, is that those later C34s anchor wells are made for a 90degree windless.  

The earlier C34 are better suited for a vertical windless installation.  

As I point out in my Mainsheet tech article, the vertical windless gipsy grabs about 300 degrees of chain as compared to the 90 degree windlass only grabbing 90 degrees of chain - at best!

A few thoughts
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Kirk Garner on August 11, 2013, 03:25:30 PM
I won't say I bought an '88 C34 because that's what Ron owns but I can say after the fact that I'm mighty glad I did. 'A few thoughts' at a time has ended up being a ton of very good, useful and reliable information that has saved me a lot of money and sleepless nights over the last few years. Thanks Ron, Stu and many others for sharing your knowledge and valuable experience with the rest of us!
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Kirk Garner on August 11, 2013, 03:28:15 PM
Forgot to mention that this is a project I have moved up on my list to take care of this Winter!

Thanks again!

Kirk
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Hawk on August 13, 2013, 03:45:05 PM
I am looking to upgrade my windlass so that I can raise and lower it remotely. The existing one is a challenge and I can't really let anyone else handle it safely.

Has anyone out there installed a new windlass on a 1990 era boat. I note the comment by Ron about the different anchor wells.
I'm looking for one that might fit with a minimum of hassle. I have 200 ft of chain.

Thanks
Hawk

Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Ron Hill on August 13, 2013, 04:51:49 PM
Tom : Beside the boat year you forgot to mention the size of your chain (necessary to get the correct gipsy) !!!

A thought 
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Ron Hill on August 13, 2013, 04:54:24 PM
Tom : Beside the chain size you also need to tell the type ie. BB or HT or etc. 

Another thought
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Hawk on August 14, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
Ron,

I believe it is 7/16 but can't be sure. Not sure how I can check whether it is BB or HT? The chain was installed by the PO.
My limited research suggests that it can be tricky if one is not sure what the chain actually is. A suggestion was to cut a foot of chain off and take it to the chandler and try it a few gypsies. For instance up here in Canada perhaps it was metric...oh boy!


Thanks
Hawk
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Ron Hill on August 14, 2013, 06:11:08 PM
Tom : I seriously doubt that your chain is 7/16"!! 
More likely it is 5/16", no more than 3/8" and probably BB. 

My guess!!
Title: Re: Installing Anchor Windlas
Post by: Hawk on August 20, 2013, 01:16:54 PM
Ron,

You might well be right...anyways it's this off season's priority to sort out.

In the meantime my son and I are flying to Fiji next Tuesday to crew on Mahina across to Vanuatu for 12 days. Yippeee!

Hawk