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Title: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: Mark Sutherland on November 22, 2012, 08:59:17 PM
I'm planning to re-bed my chain plates on my '86 and want to know where I can buy some new chain plates?  Could not find any at Catalina Direct.  Thanks.
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: Stu Jackson on November 23, 2012, 07:07:35 AM
Mark, when in doubt, call the factory. 
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: TonyP on November 24, 2012, 12:35:39 PM
Look at this too ... new designed chain plates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO5_Yjqktr8
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: Mark Sutherland on December 05, 2012, 05:51:15 PM
I asked Catalina Direct about the chain plate availability and cost while placing on order for unrelated parts.  They said that their product info indicated that they carried chain plates for the C36, and that their technical might confirm that they also might fit the C34.  When I asked for a price, I was told about $890 for a pair of upper chain plates with associated tie rods, and around $190 each for lower chain plates(not including tie rod).  I think I better try Catalina and/or Garhauer.
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: Steve Weiss on December 06, 2012, 09:07:58 AM
Quote from: marksutherland on December 05, 2012, 05:51:15 PM
I asked Catalina Direct about the chain plate availability and cost while placing on order for unrelated parts.  They said that their product info indicated that they carried chain plates for the C36, and that their technical might confirm that they also might fit the C34.  When I asked for a price, I was told about $890 for a pair of upper chain plates with associated tie rods, and around $190 each for lower chain plates(not including tie rod).  I think I better try Catalina and/or Garhauer.

I called Catalina to ask about the new chainplates and all they had were new chainplate covers. $9 each.
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: lazybone on December 06, 2012, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: marksutherland on November 22, 2012, 08:59:17 PM
I'm planning to re-bed my chain plates on my '86 and want to know where I can buy some new chain plates?  Could not find any at Catalina Direct.  Thanks.

My dumb question.

What is wrong with your chain plates?
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: Ted Pounds on December 06, 2012, 07:55:42 PM
I was kinda wondering the same thing...   :shock:
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: Mark Sutherland on December 06, 2012, 08:30:52 PM
Since I haven't pulled the chain plates yet, I don't know that there IS anything wrong with them, besides being 26 years old.  To be honest,  I expected them to cost maybe $30-40 apiece and figured it would make sense to replace them while I'm going to all the work of removing and rebedding them.  Now that I know they're going to be expensive, I'll need to see some deterioration in the existing ones before I can justify the cost. 
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: Stephen Butler on December 06, 2012, 08:48:33 PM
The chain plates on our 1990 are still in great condition so are still in the boat.  We did check with a local ss shop in Tampa about replacements and were quoted $450, not including the tie rods, plates, and other bits and pieces.  This was 2 years ago.  One item that our yard manager pointed out were the turn buckel connections to the chain plates....too small of pins, resulting in point loading. Corrected now. We will check ours once again when the boat hits the water in 2 to 3 years.   
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: mregan on December 07, 2012, 04:35:10 AM
I just re-bedded mine on my '86 a month ago.  There was a bit of rust on a couple that I was able to clean off.  Besides that, they are still in great condition.  It's not that big of a project, although my mast is down so I was able to all at the same time.  Once I figured out how the rods came loose, it was probably 1 hour to pull everything apart & epoxy, wait overnight, then another hour the next day to remount everything.
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: Stu Jackson on December 07, 2012, 09:23:45 AM
The chainplate support parts down below are very robust.
http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,7265.0.html (http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,7265.0.html)
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: mtullier on December 08, 2012, 06:44:29 AM
I just re-beded one of my chainplates last week with "Life Caulk".  Please give me your opinions on using this over 4200/5200.  I'm hoping this last as long if not longer than the 4200/5200 since it is designed to flex.
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: Stu Jackson on December 08, 2012, 09:44:48 AM
Life caulk is good.  The previous post I linked to showed the butyl I used.

4200 and 5200 are termed Satan's Glue and shouldn't be used on a boat (except 5200 gfor the hull to deck joint!).  They are adhesives, not sealants.
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: ghebbns on December 08, 2012, 11:48:36 AM
Hi Stu,

Sorry to be off the original topic, but I have to replace a few of the thru hulls in the spring and I was going to use 4200 or 5200.  Is there something better?

Thanks
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: Stu Jackson on December 08, 2012, 12:48:08 PM
http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/boat_projects (http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/boat_projects)

Maine Sail's website, includes at lot of info on a lot of issues.  IIRC he has a great discussion/photos of thru hulls and seacocks.
Title: Re: New Chain Plate Source?
Post by: Ron Hill on December 08, 2012, 01:38:34 PM
gheb : Look at Mainsails' site.

This fall I rebedded a leaky chainplate with the butyl rubber.  It was not that hard to work with and I went sailing immediately after the rebedding!  NO cure time!!   a thought