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Title: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Susan Ray on May 23, 2012, 07:07:43 PM
Aloha,
I am looking to purchase a Catalina 34, tall rig 1996. There is damage to the top of the compression post. If this structual? Easy fix? I will attach a pic if anyone knows what this is from and if it is a major problem. My agent took this pic and I have yet to see the vessel...Thank you..
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: noworries on May 23, 2012, 09:27:36 PM
I can't imagine that plastic ring is structural, looks more like cosmetic.  Does it leak?  If you're serious about the boat you should get it surveyed.  Something caused that damage, and it's likely some serious $$$ to repair right.
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Roc on May 24, 2012, 04:07:24 AM
I wonder what the bottom of the compression post looks like.  From the picture, it looks like something pushed down on it.  To try to diagnose what happened, maybe looking at the bottom can tell you if a downward force caused something, and from that, you can deduce what kind of damage could be lurking.  See if there is anything in the keel area, where the compression post rests.
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Susan Ray on May 24, 2012, 05:51:11 AM
I am having a surveyor look at the damage and do a survey if he decides the damage is not structual and can be repaired. And I will make sure he checks the bottom. I was hoping some other Catalina 34 owner may have seen this problem and know what caused it. Thanks for the responses..Susan
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Roc on May 24, 2012, 06:13:53 AM
I'm trying to think what exactly is coming out.  Looks like foam insulation.  I'm guessing the area where the deck sits onto the compression post is solid fiberglass, due to the added structural strength that area needs.  So, having something coming out of that area does not make sense.  Unless someone sprayed expanding foam to stop a leak.
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: scotty on May 24, 2012, 07:59:37 AM
Roc might be on to something.  I kept thinking that it looked like someone tried to pry the ring down from the inside.
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: noworries on May 24, 2012, 08:14:42 AM
If it's deck stepped then there's no mast boot, right?  Wouldn't that mean it's a solid cabin top?  So what's to leak?  There's no big hole, just small ones for fasteners.

What's the story from the owner?

If it's some half-assed repair, then you will need to look over the boat really carefully because where there's one half assed repair, there will be more!

I don't get it.  Why have a deck stepped mast if you still have a big post in the cabin?
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Roc on May 24, 2012, 09:26:57 AM
That's correct, deck stepped, no hole in deck.  That's why I can't figure out what that stuff is.  It looks like spray foam insulation, or some kind of chalking.  My thought is someone lowering the mast with the crane got sidetracked and pounded the mast onto the tabernacle.  That might have caused a leak (although no hole in deck), and the stuff seen is trying to stop water from coming in.  That's why I'm interested to know what the base of the compression post looks like.  That jolt I envision at the top of the post might have done something at the bottom.....Interested to hear what the surveyor says......
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Tom Soko on May 24, 2012, 09:44:43 AM
To me that looks like just the trim ring is broken.  It looks like the trim ring (with an "L" shaped cross-section) has been pulled down and broken.  The trim ring looks three dimentional, and not two dimensional.  Not sure how it would get broken, without leaving any marks on the overhead....
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Susan Ray on May 24, 2012, 02:58:32 PM
I think you are on to something there...looks like that foam stuff....but why??? The surveyor should be looking with-in the next few days. I will post what he finds. Thanks again..
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Stu Jackson on May 24, 2012, 03:47:49 PM
Susan,

Hello again!

Years ago I bought some of that spray foam to insulate around the fridge.  I never used it, because I learned that it expanded significantly after it came out of the can and I didn't want to buckle the sides of the fridge.

It could well be that the PO used foam up there, for some reason, and the buckling of the ring was the result.  I can't think of a reason to do that there, but since I have a keel stepped mast I do not know the details of the construction of the deck stepped mast.

If you're successful with this purchase, you'll join the growing list two-boat C34 owners.  Hope it works out for you.
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Susan Ray on May 24, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Hey Stu..I am looking for a boat in your area..now in Northern CA. Do you know of any for sale in your area? Looking for under 70k, way under hopefully. I sold my 87 Catalina and she is still in Hawaii...where I will be as soon as I get a boat.  This one is in Long Beach..and my last one had the mast stepped to keel too so I know nothing about compression posts...Good to hear from you...
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Stu Jackson on May 24, 2012, 05:12:11 PM
Susan, no I don't know of any here locally, other than what Faralone Yachts may have.  Look at the latest Latitude 38, they have the magazine online now, they have a full page ad in the front section of the rag.   Someone asked me recently about boats for sale and yachtworld showed a lot of them but only in So. Cal. so you probably already know about those.  No private sellers here in the Latitude 38 classified for many months now, sorry.  Happy Hunting.
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Ron Hill on May 24, 2012, 06:45:13 PM
Susan : Welcome back!!

I'd be most apt to take down the mast and get a good look at the step on the deck that the mast sits on.  If there is any damage it should surly show up there. 
I'm sure that your surveyor is going to require this be done!!  A thought
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Susan Ray on May 24, 2012, 07:28:55 PM
Thanks for the welcome...I agree about the mast..will see what the surveyor says. I missed my boat life on the ocean... land-locked in Sacramento. It will be good to return, in a Catalina 34 of course. I did find another one, a 91 that looks promising..in SoCal also. Mahalo to you all...
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: scotty on May 24, 2012, 09:19:42 PM
Susan,  There is a beautiful 34 MKII for sale in the Santa Cruz area.  The name of the boat is "Thirteen".  It's listed in Craigs List and Latitude 38.  Good Luck,

Scotty
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Susan Ray on May 25, 2012, 05:42:55 AM
Thanks Scotty but she is out of my price range...lovely tho...
I should know about the compression post on the 96 on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Susan Ray on May 30, 2012, 12:23:36 PM
Aloha...The compression post damage on the 96 was looked at by a surveyor and the only possible reason was the (tall rig) mast had been extremely raked and the forestay was way too tight... pulling the mast back and unfortunately down. No other reason was found. I will not be buying that vessel so I am still looking.
Thank you all for the responses.
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Susan Ray on June 09, 2012, 06:48:35 AM
I found my boat. :clap..hopefully will  be mine after survey and sea trial...she is lovely! Go here  http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=2477015&ybw=&units=Feet&currency=USD&access=Public&listing_id=76996&url= to see her.(not sure if I got that link right but she is in Yachtworld, West coast at Dana Point). I may not see her before she leaves for Hawaii.(long story) I have a couple of friends who are going to deliver her for me..Only thing she seems to need is a new mainsail..it's the original but the survey will tel lmore.
Check her out! Thanks for all your opinions..Mahalo, Susan
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Stu Jackson on June 09, 2012, 07:54:39 AM
Susan,

Looks wonderful.  I would carefully consider your offer contingent on the inclusion of the ukelele. :D
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Susan Ray on June 09, 2012, 07:59:46 AM
Thanks Stu..I will include the Uke and maybe the wine? Aloha
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: scotty on June 09, 2012, 08:42:57 AM
Wow!!!  Picture 31 says it all (Best of Show, Bristol Shape Sailboat).  I can see why you're jumping on this one.  I would wxpect the survey to go well, and it certainly has great gear.  Taking her to Hawaii?  Ohhhhhhhh. :clap
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Ron Volk on June 09, 2012, 09:29:50 AM
Susan,

Tranquility is berthed right across from me.  They have done a great job of upgrading it. The cabin top wood handrails were replaced with custom stainless ones, just had the stern rail modified not to long ago to add the seats, has stainless handrails on each side of the stern boarding ladder (something I did also after seeing them).  Externally, the boat is in very good condition so I imagine he maintained the rest of it accordingly. I didn't even realize it was for sale.
Best of luck.
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Stu Jackson on June 09, 2012, 09:45:55 AM
Susan, if this goes as well as you expect it to, you will be among a (now large and growing) handful of C34 skippers who have their SECOND C34!!!  Sweet...
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Susan Ray on June 09, 2012, 10:50:18 AM
Thanks Ron...I knew she had some quality work done. I offered on her the second day she was on the market.
Yes, I am taking her home to Hawaii. the Ala Wai harbor. My move to Northern CA didn't work out as planned...but it was an experience! Change is good they say.....thanks for your good luck wishes..
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: lazybone on June 09, 2012, 11:37:40 AM
Looks completly cosmetic to me.
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Susan Ray on June 09, 2012, 03:26:11 PM
Thanks Lazybone but I have decided against that vessel...
Stu, not only will I be a 2 time owner of C34's but I owned two C30's also..a 78 and an 84...good boats also...but so much smaller inside for just 4 feet!.
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: noworries on June 12, 2012, 08:06:56 AM
That's a sweet boat... looks like it was well maintained... can't image your survey finding anything wrong with it.

Would love to know what you ended up paying for it (via PM is ok), since we have a 91 that we are slowly trying to get in similar condition and are nearby... just curious what the market rate is going.

I'd also like to know how much those stern seats cost to put on... those are sweet!

Congrats--with all the new stuff on that boat you should have a VERY sweet C34!
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Kevin Henderson on June 12, 2012, 09:09:51 AM
What a beautiful looking 34  :thumb: :thumb:  Congratulations!

Having lived on the island of island of Oahu (Aiea), while active duty, and doing 30 days of Temporary Lodging at the Hale Koa... it goes without saying that I am envious of Susan to have an opportunity to not only live in Hawaii... and not only to have a Catalina 34 but to have TWO Catalina 34's :->
When we fly back to Hawaii as we occasionally do, to get our Aloha back, I will be looking towards Ali Wai marina... in search of Tranquility.

I don't know if you ever intend to rename.... but if you do....

Malie - Hawaiian for calm, serene, tranquility

Again... my sincere Ho'omaika'i 'ana

Aloha    :abd:
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Stu Jackson on June 13, 2012, 04:27:06 PM
Quote from: noworries on June 12, 2012, 08:06:56 AM

I'd also like to know how much those stern seats cost to put on... those are sweet!


Susan KNOWS what to do with a C34!   :D

Stern seats:  try this:  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,6816.0.html  Same question.
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: noworries on June 13, 2012, 08:02:55 PM
Sorry, but those other seats don't really compare to these
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/15/66/3931566_-1_20120525082705_5_0.jpg?f=/1/15/66/3931566_-1_20120525082705_5_0.jpg&w=573&h=500&t=1337973659000)
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Ron Volk on June 13, 2012, 10:14:06 PM
Noworries,

They do look nice, they were done right there in the slip, I believe that the same company also did the handrail replacements (which are also great looking). They then had a yacht maintenance co. build the seat platforms from starboard and then had the cushions made.  I talked to the person who did it & got his card but I did not get a price, unfortunately I threw his card away because I decided to buy the ones that mount on the inside.  I can try & get the name and number of the person for you if you are interested, I believe they are in the LA area.
I like my seats, the boat came with nice 3" cushions for each of the aft two lockers which were now unusable because the support posts sit on the lockers, so I added snaps to the starboard seats and use them there.  I also have a 40" wheel so I can sit either to windward or leeward on the seats and steer the boat (it's nice to be sitting up a little higher).
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Stu Jackson on June 14, 2012, 07:55:08 AM
Quote from: noworries on June 13, 2012, 08:02:55 PM
Sorry, but those other seats don't really compare to these
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/15/66/3931566_-1_20120525082705_5_0.jpg?f=/1/15/66/3931566_-1_20120525082705_5_0.jpg&w=573&h=500&t=1337973659000)

Of course they don't, IIRC that link discussed the differences in cost and whether it was worth it to any individual skipper.  Your wallet, your choice.  Just pointing out the options.  :D
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: Susan Ray on June 26, 2012, 10:37:51 PM
Hey Stu...So those are the stern seats on your boat? Guess I got the best around..
"Tranquility" is scheduled to leave Dana Point by July 1st and should arrive within 14-20 days...depending on weather of course.
It should be a fun sail for my two (excellent and seasoned) friends who are sailing her home to Hawaii. This should be a piece of cake compared to some of their adventures.....The skipper has sailed a 34' sloop from Honolulu to Seattle ...without any aux power...just sail...just for fun?
(Impressed me)
As this no longer concerns a compression post (and I know the rules)...if anyone wants to hear what's happening with the delivery ...just ask..The crew will be bringing a Sat phone (on instructions from his wife) so I may know...I will  be vacationing in South Dakota but will try to keep in touch...
Aloha and mahalo, Susan
Title: Re: Damage to top of compression post
Post by: TonyP on June 27, 2012, 04:11:35 AM
Hey Susan
They should be close to a friend who bought a C38 and sailing back to Brisbane Australia leaving around the same time from around LA.
Enjoy your purchase.
Tony
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Stu Jackson on June 27, 2012, 11:25:43 AM
I took the liberty (in spite of "no worries") to change the subject of this thread to its real purpose.

Congratulations, Susan.  Look forward to your new boat number to change the database in the C34 IA Membership.

The stern seats on my boat are shown here:  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,6816.0.html

Nope, they're not the pushed out variety.
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: noworries on June 28, 2012, 05:35:35 PM
I just saw this boat go by the wind and sea and took a picture of it as it went by.   I'll post it later.  For the record it took me longer to find this thread since you renamed it
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: noworries on June 28, 2012, 09:17:04 PM
Here she is... I have to admit I was jealous of those stern seats as she went by.  Is that your delivery crew doing a shake down?
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8166/7464771596_16e5f679a6_z.jpg)

Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Ron Volk on June 28, 2012, 09:27:43 PM
Susan,

Best of luck to your delivery crew on the trip.  At least they won't be alone out there, the San Francisco SSS's Singlehanded Race from SF to Kauai starts on Saturday the 30th and they have 22-24 boats in the race.
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Les Luzar on June 29, 2012, 09:17:11 AM
That is one nice looking C-34....I love those stern seats too! Is she still in Long Beach? Looks like Alamitos Bay!
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Ron Volk on June 29, 2012, 02:08:13 PM
Les,

That is Dana Point Marina.
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Les Luzar on June 29, 2012, 03:04:01 PM
Ah, ok. I have only visited Dana Point Harbor once.
Thanks
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Susan Ray on July 10, 2012, 12:47:52 PM
Aloha All,
Thanks for the picture of Tranquility going by! I am in S. Dakota and was without internet as my phone doesn't work here. (That was the sea-trial as only two crew took her). As I have no phone they will email me to my sisters when they arrive. I am sure all is going well and they have caught plenty fish! I think they will be suprised if the racers go by as they don't follow racing.
I will let you all know when she arrives...I won't be back there until the end of July.....she should be sitting happily in her slip by then.
Again...Mahalo, Susan
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Ron Volk on July 10, 2012, 04:27:24 PM
Susan,

They left as planned, Sunday July 1st at about 8:20 AM.  Talked to them on Saturday, they were very pleasant and low key and had plenty of time to talk even though they were still working to get ready to go the next morning.  I took a picture of them and also of the boat loaded down with ten 5 gallon fuel jugs strapped to the stanchions on each side of the boat. Also a picture of them leaving the slip in the morning.  I will post them later.

If anybody is interested I have been following the Singlehanded racers from SF to Hawaii.  They have a Website www.//singlehandedtranspac.com/race-viewer/, it's pretty neat, all the boats show up on it, their track and location, you can click on each boat and it shows the skipper their boat speed, lat. & long. and distance to the finish.  If you zoom out all the way showing the Pacific Coast to Hawaii it shows all the wind patterns in the Pacific and clicking on any of the arrows it shows the wind speed. It's  been very calm out there but does show some pressure about six hundred miles south of them.
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Susan Ray on July 25, 2012, 05:07:31 PM
Aloha,
Tranquility arrived Monday evening in Ala Wai Harbor...both Davids safe and with very strong arms as the autohelm quit about halfway home. I will hear more when I arrve Sunday.
Mahalo to all the helpful and interested C34 people, Susan
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Stu Jackson on July 25, 2012, 05:20:31 PM
YEEEESSSSSS
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: scotty on July 25, 2012, 07:54:19 PM
Aloha!!!
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: patrice on July 26, 2012, 09:40:19 AM
Nice to hear that crew and boat had a nice and safe trip to the new home port.
Now, it will be for you to enjoy sailing...
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Kyle Ewing on July 26, 2012, 05:53:54 PM
Susan--Great that your boat arrived!  I'd like to hear about the trip including days under sail, motoring, average speed, weather/waves, etc.  I joke with friends that I'd like to take Donnybrook on a Transpac (not realistic but fun to talk about).  I'd like to share with them Tranquility's journey.
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Les Luzar on July 27, 2012, 09:09:33 AM
I would also like to understand the any details of the trip, such as how much time motoring, wind and wave conditions, average speed, how the boat handled the journey, power management, and what items failed other than the auto-pilot.... any information would be appreciated....
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Ron Hill on July 27, 2012, 09:20:03 AM
Welcome Back !! 

Now I can once againg address Guys, Susan and D. Gill !!
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Susan Ray on August 09, 2012, 07:47:09 PM
Aloha,
I didn't get much info from the crew before they both left...one for Idaho and one for Maine..
The jib furling line came apart several places as it was the wrong stuff...no spare line that size(lots of larger) so they just went forward and move by hand? when using the furling. All else went okay...
I am not sure why it took 24 days.. I will ask when they return. I just appreciate their getting her here in good order.
There are so, so many new systems aboard I am busy deciding which to remove..I don't need an inverter to stay offshore for a month...or 8 batteries to support it...that will go first.

She is happy and "Tranquil" here...So am I.
Again Mahalo to all and I will report more on the crossing when I can.
Susan
Title: Re: Susan Ray's SECOND C34!!!
Post by: Michael Shaner on August 10, 2012, 08:08:58 PM
Congrats and welcome back Susan!   :D:thumb: :clap