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Title: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Mark Sutherland on February 08, 2012, 05:03:10 PM
The jaws on my Lewmar 46 self tailing winches on my 1986 C34 are worn and need replacing.  I tried the 44st/46st kit, but it doesn't fit my older winches.  Lewmar says they don't make the jaw kits any longer for my winch.  Does anyone have a source for these older jaw kits?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Ron Hill on February 08, 2012, 05:49:41 PM
Mark : At one time Lewmar had a "winch trade in" program.
 
Don't know how good it was, but it might be worth looking into if you can't find the right parts.   A thought
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Stu Jackson on February 08, 2012, 06:47:24 PM
Don't know how many wraps you put on your winches before tailing them, but have you considered just cleaning them and using one more wrap?
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Les Luzar on February 09, 2012, 09:12:08 AM
What about using larger diameter sheet lines, like half inch or larger for instance. Perhaps the larger lines and three or four wraps may do the trick. New sheet whinches are very expensive.
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Ron Hill on February 09, 2012, 02:34:27 PM
Mark : Your statement that you need new"jaws".
I assume that the winch will not hold it's position regardless of the number of wraps and the ratcheting mechanism will no longer hold ? 
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Mark Sutherland on February 09, 2012, 08:28:36 PM
My problem is that the jaws(upper/lower crowns) don't hold the line very well anymore.   The line tends to fall out of the jaws.  The larger diameter line suggested by Les may help.
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Stu Jackson on February 10, 2012, 08:54:01 AM
Do you keep the line over the stripper arm?
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Dave Spencer on February 10, 2012, 12:22:39 PM
Mark,
What size line have you been using on the winch?  I think you would be surprised at what an extra 1/16" would do.  Can you try it with a spare length of line 1/16" larger than what you are using now?
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Les Luzar on February 10, 2012, 01:20:26 PM
Mark,
Stop by my boat and check out my sheet lines. They are oversized and work great, and because they are oversized they have good hand too.
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Ron Hill on February 10, 2012, 06:22:05 PM
Mark : Now that we know that your problem is - your sheet line will not stay put in the self tailer - I believe that I can help with some advice.

I had a similar problem when I used the recommend 7/16" braid on braid sheet line for the Genoa. 
I switched to 1/2 " Regatta Polyester Single Braid line.  It will stay in the self tailer and is very easy for handling.   
A thought
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Craig Illman on February 10, 2012, 09:28:25 PM
I did the same as Ron. Yes, it's heavier and not optimal in light air, but it was so easy on your hands, I often didn't wear gloves and it didn't hockle at the turning blocks.
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Stu Jackson on February 12, 2012, 02:31:10 PM
Just occurred to me...when was the last time you cleaned your jib sheets?
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Ron Hill on February 14, 2012, 04:42:30 PM
Guys : Stu has a thought and washing that does "bulk up" a line, but I found it will only have that bulk last temporally.

After some normal strain, the diameter of the line will be reduced from it's larger "washed softened state" back to it's original size.  Only solution is a larger diameter line in the self tailer. 

Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: scotty on February 14, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
I've used Downey fabric softener on my lines.  (soak the lines)  It might help the sheets lay into the jaws better.
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Mark Sutherland on February 18, 2012, 01:08:55 PM
Thanks everyone.  It sounds like sizing UP the line a bit and using the Regatta Polyester single braid line is worth a try.  I appreciate it.  I was really cringing over the idea of replacing the whole winch, which otherwise works just fine.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Mark Sutherland on February 22, 2012, 10:09:29 PM
Guys, I tried the 1/2" Regatta Polyester single braid line, as suggested here.  Same problem.  The jaws just don't "bite" the line.  The line just sort of "falls out" of the jaws.  I've actually ordered a sample length of 5/8" in Regatta Poly SBL, and will test that now.  I'm a little worried about the weight of 5/8' line though. 
Title: Re: Need Lewmar 46 Jaw Kit
Post by: Les Luzar on February 23, 2012, 09:35:20 AM
Mark,
No need to worry about 5/8ths line unless you are racing and heading down wind. My boat came with 5/8ths sheet lines and I have actually come to like them. Since they were in pretty good shape, I did not replace them since my project list is long enough. Then again, in Long Beach we usually have plenty of wind. If the 5/8th line works, be happy you don't have to replace those Lewmar 46 ers.