We have to replace all our interior cushions, why, is a subject for another day. I will be interested in any experience with Catalina's Ultra Leather fabric, durability, ease of cleaning, stain resistance, repair etc.
that you would like to share. The good, bad and the ugly will be appreciated.
Jim - Sorry I don't have any experience with Catalina's cushions to advise you on. Be prepared to pay a lot for ultra suede.
Anyway I wanted to say that we just had the interior cushions on Frolic done this spring. Not sure where you are on the bay, but we found a good and very reasonably priced upholstery shop in Rising Sun MD. We reused the foam as the Counselor of the Exchequer said replacement was greater than the allocated funds. They've retained a slightly boaty smell, but not they're not intolerable at all. Someday maybe I'll have the foam redone.
The fabric was off the shelf from a discount upholstery supply place in Wilmington. It is strong and so far has been easy maintain (my spilled Dark 'N Stormy came right up).
Jensen's Furniture Workroom
410.658.3755
jensensfurnitureworkroom.com
13 East Cherry Street
Rising Sun MD 21911
Best of luck,
Steve
I was told by our local dealer that the company that makes Catalina's cushions is JSI in Florida. I believe their website is newjsi.com You might get a quote from them - I imagine there is some economy of scale plus they may well have the pattern for your year and model of boat.
When we replaced ours four years ago, we used a velvet type material. It's held up very well and still looks great, the only problem is that it's a pain trying to slide across it when getting in and out from the table and some of the stitching has had to be redone as a result and once a button where one of the tufts is, pulled out, again from sliding across it and had to be re sewn. If we ever have to re-cover, it would probably be with a leather type material.
Mike
We have the ivory (off-white) Ultra Leather. Excellent experience with it to date. Seems very durable, although it is soft. Marks remove very easily. We really like it.
Tony
Jim,
We have the ultra leather in blue on our boat. We really like the soft material, and always get positive comments when friends are on the boat. We spend alot of time on the boat (60-70 nights a year) and so far the cushion covers have held up very well and still look new. We have spilled things on them and the liquid does not stain or penetrate the material. The foam cushion is starting to compress, I suspect we will have to replace the foam in the next couple of years. So far no repairs have been needed.
I would include this upgrade on any New Catalina.
Its all in the eye of the beholder. Personally I think the ulta suede belongs in an RV not a boat. But thats just me.
The materials Catalina used seem to hold up well, mine is going on 21 years, few repairs, but the overall fabric still holds it's shape and color. If you like what you have, replace with something similiar. If not, well maybe thats why you are asking the question.
Jim : Just remember - you get what you pay for. A thought
My geuss is that those that have suggested to stay with fabric have no experience with Ultra Leather. I had fabric on an older C 30 and at the suggestion of the dealer went with the Ultra Leather when we purchased our C34. The fabric got dirty easily, was hard to clean, held odors like glue and was uncomfortable on hot, muggy days. The Ulra leather is exactly the opposite; it's hard to get dirty, very easy to clean, does not hold odors and is always comfortable regardless of the weather or what you happen to be wearing when you sit on it. Like Ron said, you get what you pay for... All things considered I feel the Ultra Leather is a down right bargain!
I agree that the ultra leather is very confortable, easy to maintain, etc.... as the other mentioned.
I'm told that even if it feels like leather it's not. I tend to believe that but I'm no "material" expert.
Now days many synthetics products are way superior than the original and this material is a perfect example.
Go for it
Thanks to all who took the time to reply. JSI in Florida does the newer boats that are made in Florida. The patterns for a 1987 boat are in CA. We sent our old covers to Catalina who honored our quote given that there has been a price increase. Ordered Ultra Leather, hope we will be happy with the choice of color. Short lead time, under 3 weeks.
Jim,
I am interested in getting new cushions for my boat as well. Did you just replace the covers or are you getting new foam and covers?
Would you mind posting the contact information and give us an idea of the price for Ultra leather?
Thanks!
Exodus : If you have the original foam the only question you should ask is - is the back cushion foam still usable, because I'm sure that the seat cushion foam is shot !!
Jim, we have the white ultra leather and love it!
Bill
Jim & Exodus : You both need to look at the age of the boat that's answering your query.
We only had Ultra Suede cushions for 3 years, but have had red wine and lacquer thinner spills and can see no trace of any mark!
I'm sure that the MK II owners of less than 10 years are pleased, so also take into consideration how much use the boat has had. I average 110 overnights per year not including day sailing.
A few thoughts.
Ron,
Yes, did take note that Jim's boat was an 87 MK1 and mine is an 88. I would assume that the cushions on our boats share the same pattern. Jim stated that JSI does not have the pattern for our boats.
Can anyone give me the contact information for getting replacement cushions for a 1988 Catalina 34 MKI.
Thanks!
Larry Brandt, the C36 Mark II Tech Editor just reported:
Catalina is nearing the end of a process to relocate their parts department from California to Florida. There has been some disarray in this move, I suspect. They have hired a new Parts Dept manager, Ken Roy, who seems to have the right attitude about getting this on track. He told me he welcomes emails. His contact info is:
Ken Roy
7200 Bryan Derry Road
Largo, FL 33777
T 727.544.6681 x266
F 727.546.7303
email ken(at)catalinayachts(dot)com
I have worked with Ken Roy when he was my contact (I work at Gill) at JSI. He is an awesome guy to work with and I HIGHLY recommend him for anything!
FYI, I got a quote to replace the cushions on our 1989 C34 from JSI and it was over $6,000. That was the end of that discussion.
Ken Roy was very helpful when we were replacing a window this spring but I got the impression he needs about three more people helping him.
Ouch! So I assume that was all cushions including v-berth, aft cabin and the insert for salon berth. Any idea on the price for salon cushions only?
Yes, that was the quote for all the cushions. No idea on just the salon cushions but my guess would be two-thirds of that. They are probably half in terms of area but more in number so more work would go into them .
Cushions are like sails: buy a national-named brand or buy locally or make your own. :sleepy:
You can buy from Catalina or you can have them done locally. Most folks I've run across on this subject are very happy to have found local folks. I posted on the Fleet 1 board about a local foam vendor that got good reviews.
Many folks, like Steve aka waterdog, made their own.
Your boat, your choice.
There are the choices you have.
Tail between my legs...I have no experience with the ultra suede. My comments above were based on personal perceptions/reference. At the recent Rendezvous, I heard nothing but praise about the ultra suede. Live and learn. It is mostly personal preference, ask questions, then decide what is right for you :)
I took all my old cushions to a local upholsterer and had the job done for about $3,000. It included all interior cushions plus cockpit cushions.
Mike, did that include new foam?
We have to be careful describing prices to make sure of what is included.
Recovering is one thing, totally brand new is another.
As previously mentioned regarding cushions, the Mark II boats are very different in that they have hard bottoms to the cushions, which replace the old Mark I separate compartment covers with the shiny finish on the bottom and back of each of the cushions. Totally different design concept for the storage spaces underneath and behind (too, I think, not absolutely sure) between the two boat cushion designs.
Stu,
Those that were in good condition were reused, and those were the two berths, the rest were new.
You are right, we need to be sure that we are comparing apples to apples.
My main point was that I think you can get a better price from a "non marine" upholsterer. In my case, I hauled all of my cushions from San Diego to Phoenix and back again but it was worth it. I am very happy with the quality of work done.
Mike
Guys & Gals: I believe that the preferred fabric is called "Olefin" (sp?) Other that you have "Ultra Suede" and others.