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Title: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: Steve Sayian on November 25, 2008, 09:32:04 AM
I was just looking at the local Catalina dealer (Eastern Yacht Sales) and they have a new 2008 C-34 listed with a 30 H.P. Yanmar engine instead of the normal Universal engines.

Anybody seen this before or am I in the dark?

Steve
Title: Re: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: tonywright on November 25, 2008, 10:21:37 AM
This would not be the first time that a dealer makes a mistake in the specifications of a listed boat. I am pretty sure it is still the Universal M35.

Tony
Title: Re: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: HBDave on November 25, 2008, 05:29:01 PM
I wouldn't be supprised. The 2008 C-34 is probally now made in Florida. Therefore things maybe differrent.
Title: Re: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: Stu Jackson on November 25, 2008, 06:59:26 PM
I'll miss the glow plugs.
Title: Re: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: dgill on November 26, 2008, 06:33:14 AM
You can specify the Universal engine when you order a new C34.  A friend bought one last year and did just that - he did not want the Yanmar.   :thumb:
Title: Re: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: Mike and Joanne Stimmler on November 27, 2008, 07:56:44 AM
Does anyone have any comparisons of the Universal over the Yanmar? I've heard allot of good things about the Yanmar but no direct experience. Did your friend choose the Universal because he was more familiar with it or because he felt the quality and construction was better?
From what I've heard about the M35, I'm glad I have the M25xp just for the easier maintenance access, so I think that would be MY deciding factor, having good and easy access for maintenance.

Happy Thanksgiving to all,
Mike and Joanne
Title: Re: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: Stu Jackson on November 27, 2008, 10:03:37 AM
I have not had any personal experience with Yanmars.  Gerry went for them for some reason, which I do not know.

Here's what I've picked up over the years:

1.  Yanmars don't have glow plugs.  It's one less circuit to install on the boat.  Would seem to mean higher compression ratios for cold weather starts.  Haven't heard anything negative about being able to start when it's cold.
2.  Yanmars have a good worldwide repair base.
3.  Yanmars, based on my experience on www.catalinaowners.com, has been that when they overheat the very first thing Yanmar owners say is "Check your exhaust riser" -- for some reason it seems Yanmars cake up the nipple in the exhaust riser MUCH more than has been our experience with Universals.  Yanmar owners continually report that they have to clean out their risers at the nipples.  Advantage for us Universal owners? ::: We don't have that problem, we just wait until the entire riser completely and catastrophically fails! :shock:
Title: Re: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: Terry Forshier on November 27, 2008, 05:38:05 PM
My last boat was an Oday 30 with a 2QM15 Yanmar. It was a great engine. I did replace the riser once. I used it all over the West Coast of Florida, it never failed to start up and ran like a champ.(always warm here though). I do not like warming up the glow plugs and have had several issues with this Universal. (I was able to fix them all though) just another perspective. Still I would have prefered a Yanmar. Terry
Title: Re: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: Ron Hill on November 27, 2008, 06:05:33 PM
Steve : That Yanmar 30 hp engine could have been ordered by the first owner.  Also if the Catalina factory ran short of M35 engines (also in the C36) they have been known to call the prospective C34 owner and ask if it's OK to replace the Universal with a Yanmar. 
I doubt that another owner would have "down engined" from a Universal 35hp to a Yanmar 30hp.

Guys/Susan : Both the Yanmar and the Universal are good engines.  I have no experience in the reliability and maintainability of the Yanmar, but I'm sure it's similar to the Universal. 
Parts now, is another thing!!! Yanmar has the parts market locked up and you surely won't go down to your Kubota dealer and purchase parts at 1/3 to1/2 the marina price.  Something to think about as the engine ages.   :cry4`
Title: Re: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: r_bond on December 06, 2008, 05:46:30 AM
I have a Yanmar 3JE2H in "Trinity", my 2003 34.  It's been a terrific engine.  No issues is exhaust riser, cold starts, etc.  Very reliable engine.
Title: Re: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: Mike and Joanne Stimmler on December 06, 2008, 12:27:06 PM
Did it come from the factory with that engine or was it changed out for some reason?

Mike
Title: Re: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: hump180 on December 07, 2008, 08:35:25 AM
Although I do like my Universal, I would have preferred a Yanmar. The boat I learned to sail on (Hunter31) had a 18 HP Yanmar. Smooth, very quick starting, no glowlugs. 
Title: Re: New Engine Type in 2008 C-34
Post by: r_bond on December 25, 2008, 05:44:08 AM
The Yanmar in Trinity is original equipment.  I assume the PO ordered her that way.