OK, new project for the week. I want to add some additional storage space and really like the look of the galley shelves that Catalina now installs. My only issue is it seems too small. I also like the idea of lots of places to grab hold when moving in the cabin. I'm thinking I'll add a shelf 1'x4' and use a 1" stainless steel tube to support the far end. It appears that I might just have room to drill a 1" hole between the edge of the sink and the end of the counter. I'll add a teak block and SS round stanchion base to the overhead to support the other end. This should be strong enough to hang on to if needed. and provide a strong support the the shelf.
The top of the shelf will be Formica with holes drilled for 1/4" pegs to keep the the dishes from sliding around (dish storage was the main purpose of the shelf idea). I was even thinking I'll cut a piece of teak with holes in the ends (also slots) and bolts/wing nuts. Slip the teak over the top of the pegs, tighten the wing nuts and the dishes stay in place even in heavy weather...
I'm still thinking about how to secure the other end.
Comments?
Rick,
Looks like a nice idea. Perhaps you could secure the outboard end with a piece of SS piano hinge on the underside? It would spread the load to multiple smaller screws.
Almost done...
I'm not sure if I want to add a center support...
Cheers,
Rick
Very Nice!!!! Did you go al the way through the core with your bolts (last Picture)?
Allan,
I now have the teak trim ready to install (darn pricey) and I need to glue on the Formica on the underside. The teak block is varnished and ready to go. I'll post a "finally done" picture in the next few days.
The teak block is held in place with 4ea. #12 x 1 1/2 inch ss screws. They penetrate the overhead by about 3/4 of an inch (this is not completely through the deck. I was also going to use 4200 to add to the strength. I worry about using 5200, just in case I need to remove the block someday.
Cheers,
Rick
Quote from: Rick Johnson on November 29, 2008, 03:26:07 PM
Almost done...
I'm not sure if I want to add a center support...
Cheers,
Rick
Rick, looks great! You probably have some flex in the middle right now, but if you are running teak fiddles front and back of any depth, you'll probably find it gets very rigid and doesn't need any center support. Your screws and a little dab of 4200 are more than adequate for your overhead mount - you're just dealing with a lateral load (shear forces on the screws) no bearing weight and you definitely don't want through bolts on this application.
Oh and before you glue the formica on, route a little channel down the middle of the shelf a measured distance from the edge. Drop a messenger string into the channel. Because as soon as you finish, there will be a call to add under shelf lighting and you'll be able drill a neat hole through the formica and pull wires though the channel with the string and they will be perfectly hidden and neat...
Or just go ahead and put the wire in now! :santa
Who are we kidding? Go ahead and mount the lights now while you have the thing upside down.
OK, I thought about adding wiring to the shelf but had decided against it. I was thinking I'll just add a battery powered led under counter light.... I did notice while admiring my work (and drinking Irish Beer), that the wine glass rack would fit nicely.
Cheers,
Rick
Rick, very nicely done. One thought about your lighting: I've been that route -said "sure, easier with battery lights." I tried it once and kicked myself for not installing wired-in lighting - it's sooooo much easier in the future and you never have to worry about batteries or changing them. Our lighting is in the pictures and an article in Projects. We put the switches just forward of the galley that you can see in the pictures: http://www.c34.org/projects/projects-aquavite.html With low draw LEDs it's no drain on the house bank.
OK, it does take me a while to get the message, but you are all giving the same advice. I'll cut the slot and install the wiring. Cuz, you are so right that it would be a pain if I decided it needed a light later...
Thanks,
Rick
Looks great. Excellent idea. Got me thinking about our O'Day. One part I am missing is how are you securing the shelf to the vertical stainless steel tubing. Thanks
Good Winds
DaveM
From my "other boat parts store".
Part Number: 9943K27 $15.08 Each
Type Set Screw
System of Measurement Inch
Material Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel Material Type 316 Stainless Steel
Finish Plain
Bore Size 7/8"
Outside Diameter 1-1/2"
Width 9/16"
Screw Size 5/16"-18
Set/Cap Screw Material Type 316 Stainless Steel
Specifications Met Not Rated
Rick,
Is that SS support structure on the outboard (inboard) end a stock item? Looks like prefab, and it certainly would not pay to have it custom fabricated. Is it a West Marine part?
I read the thread a couple of times and did not see it in there.
Just curious. I am not sure the captain wants a shelf there, as it gets in the way of socalizing with cabin residents from the galley, but just in case . . . .
Michael
Michael,
OK, you caught me mixing metals.
If this is not too confusing.... I used a piece of aluminum bar stock ($2.50 - 1/2" thick 1"x7"). I drilled and countersunk 5ea 5/16" holes (3 for into the counter and 2 for the 7/8" stainless steel tubes). I bought 2ea Aluminum Spacers ($2ea) 3/4" OD x .257" ID x 1" long and used a tap to cut 5/16" NC threads in the aluminum spacer. I used ss machine screws to attach the spacers to the bar stock and slipped it into the ends of the 7/8" stainless steel tubes. I used a dremel tool with a polishing wheel to shine the whole thing up so it would look more like the stainless steel.
I hope you could followed all that! It worked great and was cheap. The whole thing seems very strong.
I only have a picture of the base after drilling the holes but when I go back to the boat, I'll take a better picture.
As for socializing, that was part of staying with the open shelf. I invited the locals from the marina in for consultation. With everyone in the cabin and after several beers, we decided that the prototype was not interfering with the conversation and it was given the stamp of approval...
Cheers,
Rick
Quote from: Rick Johnson on December 02, 2008, 05:10:50 PM
Michael,
OK, you caught me mixing metals...
Don't you hate it when they catch you like that? Stu is really bad. He always drags these confessions out of me that embarass me in front of my fellow sailors...
Ah, the joy :clap of it - boat fires and mixed metals. Hope you at least put Lanocote between the dissimilar metals! :shock:
Closer, but still trying to add all the suggestions...
Beautiful job Rick, makes me want to modify the one on our Mk ll :clap
Done!
Except for the wine glass rack.....
Rick
P.S. Yes, the corners are walnut, not teak. Cuz, I had them laying around the shop...
Excellent job, you should be very proud of the job you have done.
Beautiful work!!...where did you get Walnut corners? (Before they were laying around shop).
When I lived in SoCal, I would stop at Minney's Yacht Surplus about every weekend. There were always odds and ends of teak molding to buy for next to nothing. I bought 4 of the walnut corners for $1.95 each. The color looks closer in-person, and I decided it makes the shelf more interesting. Now I have to figure out some type of brackets for the dishware. I've decided I don't like the idea of the dowels.
Cheers,
Rick
And the v-berth project is still waiting to be finished....