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Title: autohelm 4000 control unit repair or replacement
Post by: salsailor on April 15, 2008, 12:57:01 PM
My old autohelm 4000 control unit failed this weekend, it wont powerup anymore. I checked the cable and connector, the power supply works fine. I guess the unit is dead.

Does anyone know how to get it replaced or repaired? I saw some infor about a retrofit kit to use st4000+ control unit? Is that true? If so, is anyone still carry it? I know Raymarine discontinued it.
Title: Re: autohelm 4000 control unit repair or replacment
Post by: Tom Soko on April 15, 2008, 05:05:37 PM
Sal,
Do you have the ST4000 or the 4000?  The ST4000 is hardwired from the back, while the 4000 has a wire and a plug coming out of the bottom of the unit.  The reason I ask is that I have the 4000, and a few years ago it started working intermittently.  I even sent it back to Raymarine, and they said everything checked out OK.  I finally diagnosed the problem to a broken wire at the end of the plug.  I took the plug apart, shortened the wires by 1-2", and it has been working fine ever since.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: autohelm 4000 control unit repair or replacment
Post by: Ken Juul on April 16, 2008, 04:53:23 AM
If it is the control head in the black plastic case, Raymarine no longer services it.  They still do work on the 4000(+) model in the grey case.

I have the black case model, it died last year.  Decided to replace the whole thing with the new Wheel Pilot X that came out this spring.  Motor was getting tired, drive unit squeaked and it kept loosing it's compass head.  Not sure if the compass part was the flux gate or the computer. 

I have heard the RM sells refurbished 4000+ models as a whole or individual parts.  Might be more cost effective than repair.
Title: Re: autohelm 4000 control unit repair or replacment
Post by: salsailor on April 16, 2008, 12:34:17 PM
Thanks to both replies.

This is the old 4000 unit, not st4000. It does use a connector, which is prone to problems, which I already checked and I opened the unit box and verified the power did come on to the board itself. So it's not the power supply problem.

I called the Raymarine, they did not repair this unit anymore. The S1 wheelpilot cost over $1000, not sure I want to invest that much money on it yet, since I do not do long distance cruise.

It will be nice if I can get an older model, which is ST4000+ on a discount. I think some vendors still have it for sale about $800.

Meanwhile if you're replacing your old 4000, and have a control unit that I can use, please let me know.

cheers!
Title: Re: autohelm 4000 control unit repair or replacment
Post by: Hawk on May 12, 2009, 12:29:21 PM
I had the dreaded AH4000 drive unit lock on the wheel last weekend. Luckily I was just leaving the dock and so took the whole unit off the wheel.

Even though the clutch lever seemed to lock on and off OK, when unlocked the drive was grinding away when the wheel was turned. I'm thinking something has broken inside but darned if I see a way to dismantle the two components of the drive assembly...........anyone done this?

Thanks,
Hawk
Title: Re: autohelm 4000 control unit repair or replacment
Post by: Ken Krawford on May 12, 2009, 06:04:38 PM
Sal,

Is this the unit you were referring to by any chance?  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RAYMARINE-ST-4000-WHEEL-DRIVE-E12093-BRAND-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQhashZitem439185c01aQQitemZ290204270618QQptZBoatQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQ5fGear (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RAYMARINE-ST-4000-WHEEL-DRIVE-E12093-BRAND-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQhashZitem439185c01aQQitemZ290204270618QQptZBoatQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQ5fGear)
Title: Re: autohelm 4000 control unit repair or replacment
Post by: Ken Juul on May 13, 2009, 08:45:32 AM
The two halve of the wheel unit that the belt rides in just snap together.  Once it is off the wheel use a putty knife or other wide tool to gently force the two halves apart.  It's been a while but I think it only has 3 (maybe 4) tabs that hold it together.

Take a good look at the clutch acutating arm.  It is held in place by a steel push pin.  The pin is the weak link, if it shears the handle rotates but doesn't engage/dissengage the clutch.  It is also possible if only one end of the pin breaks to have the handle rotate on the shaft so you are only getting a partial throw.  When my pin sheared it enlarged the hole in the handle quite a bit.  I overdrilled the handle and the shaft and used a small stainless nut and bolt to reattach.
Title: Re: autohelm 4000 control unit repair or replacment
Post by: Hawk on May 13, 2009, 09:42:03 PM
Ken,

Thanks a million. Just what I needed to hear. I'll pull it apart tomorrow.

Hawk