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Title: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: pbyrne on June 09, 2024, 10:11:45 AM
We keep a single jerry can aboard to be able to stay out of marinas a bit longer.

We keep it strapped to the front of the pedestal at the moment but its awkward, and we also have a gas tank for the outboard to deal with.

What's the best practice for securing the jerry can? 
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: Jim Hardesty on June 09, 2024, 02:45:29 PM
Some may object to this, but it works for me. On my MKII I carry spare fuel, 1 gal. and 5 gal., in the anchor locker. Easy enough to lift out when anchoring and it is vented overboard by the drain.
Jim
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: Jon W on June 09, 2024, 03:19:35 PM
I don't know if this is best practice, but it's a way. I installed Trex boards with SST u-bolts to the port and starboard lifeline stantions. I can carry 3 (water or fuel) of the tall version 5 gallon jerry cans per side. The cans aren't in the way going forward because my jacklines run to the inboard side of the chainplates so I have to go onto the cabin top past the shrouds anyway.
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: Ron Hill on June 10, 2024, 02:24:21 PM
pby : I've done the same as Jon!!  A common place for cruisers !

A thought
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: pbyrne on June 10, 2024, 03:23:52 PM
Quote from: Jon W on June 09, 2024, 03:19:35 PMI don't know if this is best practice, but it's a way. I installed Trex boards with SST u-bolts to the port and starboard lifeline stantions. I can carry 3 (water or fuel) of the tall version 5 gallon jerry cans per side. The cans aren't in the way going forward because my jacklines run to the inboard side of the chainplates so I have to go onto the cabin top past the shrouds anyway.

How do you secure the Jerry cans to the board?

What makes for a good board?
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: Jon W on June 10, 2024, 04:57:38 PM
I drilled two ~1.4" holes in the board for each jerry can. The jerry can fits between the holes. I use 5 or 6mm Samson XLS to pass through the holes and lash the can to the board. If you zoom into the photo you may be able to see the holes. If not let me know and I'll take a closer picture. The boards are 1" x 5 1/2" Trex Tropical Tiki Torch composite decking lumber. Stands up to UV and no maintenance.
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: Noah on June 10, 2024, 05:13:53 PM
"Tropical Tiki"!  My favorite! ;-)
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: Jon W on June 14, 2024, 12:38:28 PM
I forgot to mention you should get yourself a shaker type siphon hose to transfer the diesel from  the jerry can to the fuel tank. I bought mine a long time ago, don't remember where I got it. Much easier than dealing with a full jerry can. I set the 5 gal jerry can on the coaming near the diesel fuel fill port. Put open end of the tube in the diesel fill port, the shaker end in the jerry can. Shake the siphon tube to get diesel flowing, then sit back and watch it empty the can into the tank. Depending where I'm getting the diesel from, I also have a smaller version of the second photo. It leaves a little diesel in the filter that I pour through bunched up cheese cloth fitted in the fill port.
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: pbyrne on June 14, 2024, 02:15:09 PM
Quote from: Jon W on June 14, 2024, 12:38:28 PMI forgot to mention you should get yourself a shaker type siphon hose to transfer the diesel from  the jerry can to the fuel tank. I bought mine a long time ago, don't remember where I got it. Much easier than dealing with a full jerry can. I set the 5 gal jerry can on the coaming near the diesel fuel fill port. Put open end of the tube in the diesel fill port, the shaker end in the jerry can. Shake the siphon tube to get diesel flowing, then sit back and watch it empty the can into the tank. Depending where I'm getting the diesel from, I also have a smaller version of the second photo. It leaves a little diesel in the filter that I pour through bunched up cheese cloth fitted in the fill port.

Great suggestions!  I have the siphon and that was a bloody miracle to use.  I put the can on the princess seat and use the siphon.  Easy peasy.
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: Jim Hardesty on June 15, 2024, 04:07:42 AM
QuoteI forgot to mention you should get yourself a shaker type siphon hose to transfer the diesel from  the jerry can to the fuel tank.

I use a battery powered one like this.
https://www.northerntool.com/products/sierra-tools-battery-operated-liquid-transfer-pump-1-1-4-to-1-1-2-gpm-3-4in-dia-x-23-1-2-24in-l-hose-model-jb5684-550704
Works good for me.  Have 2, one on the boat one at home.
Did I mention how I hate the new design gas can spouts.  Can't pour fuel without spilling.
Jim 
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: Stu Jackson on June 15, 2024, 10:00:28 AM
It's called SUPER SIPHON, was at least when I bought mine 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: Noah on June 15, 2024, 11:39:37 AM
On Amazon:
Darnassus Siphon Hose Pump, Manual Hand Fuel Transfer Pump for Gasoline Gas Oil Fuel Petrol Diesel Fluid Water, 1/2" Valve Virgin Grade Tubing Safe with Brass Connector (1/2" Blue 6 FT)
 https://a.co/d/hnJ3dME
I bought one in March.
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: britinusa on June 24, 2024, 09:22:12 AM
We never fill the fuel tank from a marina, always use a diesel cannister and the syphon that others have mentioned.

I keep a mesh bag with the Syphon, Clean up cloth, Tank Key, Line ( to secure the can to the rail by the fuel fill ) and a bottle of bio protection fluid.

My process is to move the diesel can to the back combing and secure it to the rail with the line, unlock the fuel fill cap, pour the right amount of bio protection into the diesel can, use the syphon to transfer most of the diesel in the can leaving a small amount behind. When transfer is complete, wrap the syphon hose with the clean up cloth and withdraw the hose from the fill point catching any drips from the hose with the cloth. Close up the fuel fill point, dry off the hose and release the diesel can from the rail. Put everything back in the bag and leave it out to air in order to eliminate any smell from the cloth.

It makes everything much easier having all bits and pieces in one place to get the job done.
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: Breakin Away on June 24, 2024, 07:30:57 PM
In case anyone cares, you can turn an ordinary hose into a siphon hose using a rag and a straw. Place the hose and straw into the jerry can, seal it up by holding a rag over the lid, and blow through the straw. Once the diesel fills the hose and the siphon starts (going into the tank, of course), stop blowing.
Title: Re: Secure Diesel Jerry Cans
Post by: pbyrne on June 28, 2024, 04:42:57 AM
Quote from: Breakin Away on June 24, 2024, 07:30:57 PMIn case anyone cares, you can turn an ordinary hose into a siphon hose using a rag and a straw. Place the hose and straw into the jerry can, seal it up by holding a rag over the lid, and blow through the straw. Once the diesel fills the hose and the siphon starts (going into the tank, of course), stop blowing.

Genius!