Just completed this project (a request from the Admiral) to refinish the companionway. Both steps and walls were pretty faded (sun bleached) and beat-up from the years of use.
I scoured the posts here before starting to get knowledge, opinions and ideas, from the many others who've done it (THANKS). Here's a little PDF of summarizing my experience with it and what I used. Several more pictures in the PDF to illustrate the process. Used EMTECH EM2000wvx WB Alkyd Varnish as this is what Catalina used at the time my boat was built. It was very easy to work with and I certainly recommend it for looks and color/texture matching of the rest of the boat.
https://robertgiroux.com/downloads/Companionway%20Stair%20Refinishing%20-%20C34%20MKII.pdf
That turned out very nice. We have a pretty tatty oil treated interior. I missed the varnish switch over by 1 year :-( .
Thanks Robert,
This is very timely as it's on the winter list for Shamrock, and the snow has melted enough to get in. Was debating with myself what varnish to use, contacted EMTECK still wasn't decided. Due to your experience going to go with them.
Thanks for sharing,
Jim
Robert,
Question, What type of brush did you use?
Jim
Quote from: Jim Hardesty on February 28, 2022, 07:15:38 AM
Robert,
Question, What type of brush did you use?
Jim
I tried both a 2" "stain brush" and super cheap foam brushes and couldn't see a difference. It's very compliant, self-leveling and overall fool-proof forgiving, I think.
Robert,
That turned out beautifully. I had to put non-slip pads on mine because people kept slipping on the way down even with the grooves.
Jim,
I've had very good luck with foam brushes when applying clear finishes. Just keep the brush wet, keep it moving and don't try to stretch the finish or you'll wind up with dry spots especially on a warm day.
RG,
What a nice job, Looks great!
Robert
WOW what a tasteful transformation. They look better than new.
Hos many hours effort would you say you had into them (not elapsed!)
Wouks it be ok if i cross posted your write up over on the C30 wiki? I bet theres many who have the same "before" situation.
Very cool look.
-ken
Quote from: KWKloeber on February 28, 2022, 08:21:49 AM
Robert
WOW what a tasteful transformation. They look better than new.
Hos many hours effort would you say you had into them (not elapsed!)
Wouks it be ok if i cross posted your write up over on the C30 wiki? I bet theres many who have the same "before" situation.
Very cool look.
-ken
Thank you 😊
Yes, cross post anywhere you like.
Quote from: scgunner on February 28, 2022, 07:46:06 AM
Robert,
That turned out beautifully. I had to put non-slip pads on mine because people kept slipping on the way down even with the grooves.
Thanks Kevin,
Curious which varnish and "gloss" did you use? I thought I'd have to add nonskid but so far it doesn't seem like it needs it. We're normally barefoot going through the companionway.
Quote from: KWKloeber on February 28, 2022, 08:21:49 AM
Robert
WOW what a tasteful transformation. They look better than new.
Hos many hours effort would you say you had into them (not elapsed!)
-ken
There's a lot of waiting/drying time in each step of course, but actual elbow grease is not that bad given the right tools and supplies. I'd guess actual labor would be around 8-10 hours over several days.
I need to re-varnish the walls in the companionway. Did you have any issue with the thickness of the veneer as you were sanding? Did you try to take all the old varnish off or just smooth it ? Looks like from the picture you managed to get most of it off.
I've been doing some projects and even with the EMTECH EM2000wvx WB, the match isn't perfect. I think the existing varnish has turned slightly red/orange with age.
Looks great!
Rob.
Quote from: rmjohns on February 28, 2022, 11:10:39 AM
I need to re-varnish the walls in the companionway. Did you have any issue with the thickness of the veneer as you were sanding? Did you try to take all the old varnish off or just smooth it ? Looks like from the picture you managed to get most of it off.
I've been doing some projects and even with the EMTECH EM2000wvx WB, the match isn't perfect. I think the existing varnish has turned slightly red/orange with age.
Looks great!
Rob.
Thanks Rob,
The walls at first confused me as I thought the dark parts were the problem but it's the light "milky" parts that are actually what needs to be stripped off. That is the varnish that has gone milky with sun exposure. Strip as much off with chemical stripper, then sand as little as possible, and check the color evenness by wetting with a damp cloth.
I did the same refinish job with the same varnish two years ago. For non-skid, I've had really good luck with this product: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DP3QCEC
It's clear and virtually invisible from the top of the stairs. It's all soft textured polymer - no annoying "sand" or other stuff to abrade off. One strip at the very edge of each step does the trick. Writeup and pictures here:
https://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8784.msg81486.html#msg81486
I did the same thing last year. I got the same varnish from Catalina Direct. They can match the varnish to the year of your boat. Used the same on the companionway doors to great effect, after a good sanding.
Just refinished the companionway stairs for Shamrock. I'm happy with the results. But. Did have some miscues.
Due to Erie weather and my workshop being my basement decided to use Citrastrip https://citristrip.com/ It did a good job stripping the varnish, but turned the wood black. Used some two part teak cleaner I had. Helped but still too stained. Searched the web and looked like oxalic acid was my best choice. https://www.amazon.com/oxalic-acid/s?k=oxalic+acid Worked well. Light sanding then used the emteck EM2000wvx em2232 semi gloss that was OEM Catalina. Was happy with the way it went on. Foam brush worked well, dry brushed with chip brush on the grooves. Dried to touch in about an hour. Re-coated in 3 hours, without sanding per instructions. Didn't build up like regular varnish so needed more coats, I did 9 coats, 2 or 3 coats per day.
Summarizing, I probably will not use Citrastrip on teak again, will use the emteck again when I don't need a deep finish.
Planning to refinish the companionway walls, prep being only very light sanding/scotchbrite.
Jim
PS: I really like Minwax Helmsman (pic) when I want a deeper finish.
Jim
Odd. I used CS extensively on teak doors/frames and panels with no issue.
I found that Oxyclean (or dollar store alternative) worked well to clean/bleach (usually compined with sunlight) without the downside of acid. I would wet, sprinkle, work with a sponge or soft brush / keep it damp as the piece dries / gently work more / rinse. I've also tried the liquid Oxi but seemed like working the granules was better. no scientific comparison though.