Catalina 34

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Title: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: derekb on February 23, 2022, 03:29:58 PM
For a while, I've been wanting to make some access to the lazarette from the aft cabin on my '86 Mk I.

So about a year ago I purchased three access hatches 510mm x 460mm (20" x 18") and yesterday I finally cleared out the lazarette and started cutting!

Here's a couple of photos of the results... first with the hatches closed:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51900308213_dc8a36aef1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n5fDse)

And with the hatches open, you can see they give great access through to the lazarette:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51900308253_3677822973_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n5fDsV)

I'm happy with that result. Next I'll re-route some wiring and the blower duct, then I need to start re-organising my storage back there...
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: Noah on February 23, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
Your older MKI boat has lots of room back there to access—you must have a bow water tank?? Did the aft bulkhead come painted? All of the ones I have seen are teak plywood.
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: waughoo on February 23, 2022, 04:03:03 PM
Noah... looks to me like it is a completely glassed in bulkhead.
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: derekb on February 23, 2022, 04:18:31 PM
Noah, that's right, no aft water tank. This boat has a forward water tank under the v-berth and the usual starboard water tank under the seats next to the table. So yes, lots of storage space back there.

Alex is right, the aft bulkhead was entirely glassed-in and painted, no plywood panel there. You can just see there is a plywood panel on the port wall for access to the fuel tank, but not on the aft bulkhead.
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: Ron Hill on February 23, 2022, 04:27:31 PM
Guys :  FYI, The initial 1986 production C34s did not have an aft water tank!!

A thought
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: Noah on February 23, 2022, 04:49:04 PM
Derek—nice solution!
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: derekb on February 23, 2022, 05:27:34 PM
Thanks Noah.

I'm still undecided if I will leave the hatches as shown, or invert them so they open upwards. That will be easier for access, so I may end up doing that. It will also require some way of propping them up when open, but that will be simple to achieve.
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: KWKloeber on February 23, 2022, 05:57:55 PM
The engine/tranny access on the 30 is 3 doors that were a royal PITA with the hinges on top and more of a PITA turned around. I removed the hinge and made a slight mod to each so that they are removable. 
If the hinge was decommissioned I could envision a way to hold the bottom in place when the top latches are closed.
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: Stu Jackson on February 23, 2022, 06:23:53 PM
Neither top nor bottom:  on the side, like a door!

Not my idea, but one of the very first things we did to the "hatch" in the galley to access the water manifold valves wasw to switch the hinges from the bottom to the side.

Has worked great for 25 years.

Gee, like a "door" - who knew?!?  :D:D:D

No need to prop up, no need to worry about sitting on it.
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: Noah on February 23, 2022, 06:42:26 PM
 :clap
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: ewengstrom on February 24, 2022, 04:35:27 AM
Stu,
Apparently Catalina figured that out too....the door below and to the outside of the galley sink on Ohana opened like a door when we got her. I'm quite sure it had never been removed so perhaps one day at the factory someone thought..."Hey...let's try it this way, look it works BETTER!!!"  :clap
OR.....someone put yours in on a Monday morning and really wasn't paying a lot of attention to what they were doing.  :shock:
The world may never know........ :abd:
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: Noah on February 24, 2022, 10:06:45 AM
My 1990 had the small galley door hinged downward. I changed it to side-opening. So Eric, perhaps a PO beat you to it and it was changed after factory.
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: Stu Jackson on February 24, 2022, 11:05:13 AM
Quote from: ewengstrom on February 24, 2022, 04:35:27 AM
Stu,
Apparently Catalina figured that out too....the door below and to the outside of the galley sink on Ohana opened like a door when we got her. I'm quite sure it had never been removed so perhaps one day at the factory someone thought..."Hey...let's try it this way, look it works BETTER!!!"  :clap
OR.....someone put yours in on a Monday morning and really wasn't paying a lot of attention to what they were doing.  :shock:
The world may never know........ :abd:

Uhm, nope.  The world actually does know.  :D   It was OEM to have it drop down.  It was such a PITA to so many, it got written up in one of the very early Mainsheet tech notes.  That's how I learned about it.  My PO gave me all the back print issues of the magazine from 1987 when we bought our boat in 1998.  I read them all, eventually built the tech notes index and then we scanned them all and created the tech notes online.
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: Ron Hill on February 24, 2022, 04:23:34 PM
Guys : I've been in that bottom drop down hatch a zillion times and never even thought about changing it to a side opening.  The door (down) was out of the way for all the things that I've done under that side of the galley!   :?

A thought
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: Stu Jackson on February 24, 2022, 05:32:49 PM
Ron, once you've stepped on it accidentally and broken the hinges...

Sure, you didn't, but many did, hence the Mainsheet tech note that I mentioned.  I moved the hinges before I stepped on it.  :D

Your boat, your choice.  :D
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: Ekutney on March 03, 2022, 09:24:06 AM
I have an early 86 C34 MK1 & have exactly the same glass bulkhead in the aft cabin, no aft water tank.  I've thought about use of the space & those doors look like they provide good access.

My boat initially also had a 200 liter water bladder under the after berth.  I still have it but have not reinstalled.

Derek,

What do your companionway steps look like? how many steps?

these are mine:

Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: derekb on March 04, 2022, 07:30:06 PM
Hi Ed,

my companionway steps are the same as yours.
Title: Re: Aft cabin hatches to lazarette - Mk I
Post by: Stu Jackson on March 06, 2022, 09:17:26 AM
Quote from: Ekutney on March 03, 2022, 09:24:06 AM

What do your companionway steps look like? how many steps?


Ed,

Those companionway steps were the original design, and were modified sometime after your hull #42, and I also was on Al Watson's #55 (Kindred Spirit, now owned by Dave Commando).

They changed the upper step support, like this: 

I don't know what hull # they made the switch, but sometime between #55 and #224 (mine) and I know #214 had steps like mine (the late Bill Eddy's boat in San Francisco).