I've owned my Cat MkII for 6 months. Last week I went to run the engine at higher than idle RPM but couldn't for the life of me figure out how to increase RPM while in neutral. Every other boat I've sailed has a button on the lever which you press in to disengage the transmission. But, on my boat, nada. Just a black plastic disc which budges not a milimetre when I press it.
What am I missing????
Keel : OEM - The Throttle is on the starboard and the Shifter in on the port side. Shift in neutral (center position) and move (forward) the throttle lever to increase RPM!!
If you have other than the standard Edson Throttle/Shifter that is OEM for all C34s you need to post a picture!!
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KG
Was she repowered?
Do you have a Westerbeke (not Seaward) engine panel?
A single-lever shift/throttle (like on a Beneteau or J boat)?
It's very helpful (help us to help you) if you put all the pertinent boat/engine info in your signature or sidebar profile!
Hi chaps. It's a Westerbeke M35B. Photo attached (hopefully).
KG
You have a lever on both sides, correct?
One (port) being Rev-Neutral-Fwd the other (stbd) throttle?
When I'm neutral just advance the throttle. Or am I missing some oddity on your pedestal?
Quote from: KWKloeber on February 16, 2022, 09:53:54 AM
KG
You have a lever on both sides, correct?
One (port) being Rev-Neutral-Fwd the other (stbd) throttle?
When I'm neutral just advance the throttle. Or am I missing some oddity on your pedestal?
No KW. I have just this one lever. Back for reverse, forward for ahead and a detente in the middle for neutral at about 750 RPM.
Apparently there's no facility for increasing the revs while in neutral.
Here is how I've seen other single lever work.
Push in the black button when the lever is centered in neutral at idle. That allows the engine to rev with the transmission in neutral. If that isn't working something is wrong with the shifter/throttle or linkage.
Jim
Quote from: Jim Hardesty on February 16, 2022, 12:31:16 PM
Here is how I've seen other single lever work.
Push in the black button when the lever is centered in neutral at idle. That allows the engine to rev with the transmission in neutral. If that isn't working something is wrong with the shifter/throttle or linkage.
Jim
AHA! Thank you Jim. it must be a stuck button. I'll investigate.
Quote from: KeelsonGraham on February 16, 2022, 12:39:49 PM
Quote from: Jim Hardesty on February 16, 2022, 12:31:16 PM
Here is how I've seen other single lever work.
Push in the black button when the lever is centered in neutral at idle. That allows the engine to rev with the transmission in neutral. If that isn't working something is wrong with the shifter/throttle or linkage.
Jim
AHA! Thank you Jim. it must be a stuck button. I'll investigate.
KG, it's hard to tell from your photo but if pushing the black button IN doesn't do anything, perhaps pulling the circular part of ss handle out gently may do it.
We once did a house exchange in France and they had an old Peugot. It took me a quarter of an hour to find reverse!!! I'd owned a VW Bug and driven many other stick shifts, but this one had me stumped. I don't recall now what the trick was but it was definitely counter-intuitive.
Quote from: KeelsonGraham on February 16, 2022, 12:39:49 PM
Quote from: Jim Hardesty on February 16, 2022, 12:31:16 PM
Here is how I've seen other single lever work.
Push in the black button when the lever is centered in neutral at idle. That allows the engine to rev with the transmission in neutral. If that isn't working something is wrong with the shifter/throttle or linkage.
Jim
AHA! Thank you Jim. it must be a stuck button. I'll investigate.
Possibly giggling the handle back and forth slightly while pushing button will help it find register?
It looks like an Edson single-lever conversion,
https://edsonmarine.com/products/pedestals-cockpit-accessories/engine-controls-accessories/single-lever-engine-controls/
Quote from: wingman on February 16, 2022, 05:52:46 PM
It looks like an Edson single-lever conversion,
https://edsonmarine.com/products/pedestals-cockpit-accessories/engine-controls-accessories/single-lever-engine-controls/
His mkii being a 2006 could have come with it?
Quote from: KeelsonGraham on February 16, 2022, 11:21:05 AM
I have just this one lever. Back for reverse, forward for ahead and a detente in the middle for neutral at about 750 RPM.
Apparently there's no facility for increasing the revs while in neutral.
KG Thank you for the additional explanation -- I couldn't tell if there was a port-side handle.
Push in the button;
Pull the handle hub OUT to the "throttle only" position (disengages the handle from the spline that drives the Fwd-Rev cable.)
Advance the throttle.
If the handle doesn't slide, there might be corrosion on the shaft. Try working teflon spray onto the handle shaft/button. Edson recommends that the handle be removed annually. Reinstall with a lube on the moving parts so corrosion doesn't get a foothold (or a handhold!) If you email Edson they can email you the manual for it.
QuoteHis mkii being a 2006 could have come with it?
Think so. Look at the picture, there's a table/console, whatever they call it, in front of the wheel that the shifter/throttle is mounted.
Jim
That's a nice setup. With the throttle and gear on opposite sides of the pedestal, I feel like I need 3 hands when docking gets sporty.
Quote from: rmjohns on February 17, 2022, 06:55:36 AM
That's a nice setup. With the throttle and gear on opposite sides of the pedestal, I feel like I need 3 hands when docking gets sporty.
Until this post I didn't realise that there was anything other than single lever operation!!!
QuoteUntil this post I didn't realise that there was anything other than single lever operation!!!
Lots of ways to do the same thing. Because Shamrock is different from most of my friends boats I wrote up a detailed start-up and motor operating instructions. Sort of a just in case thing.
Remember when I was new to boating one of the old timers with a two year old pride and joy 31 Catalina couldn't start it at launch. After a couple of days of trouble shooting he paid to have his boat towed to his slip across the bay. Shortly after he realized that turning the key past on (glow plug position) wasn't the start, a separate button is the start. Embarrassing and costly.
Jim
Keel : Not to discourage you, but I've watched more power boaters with a similar single throttle/shifter lever sitting at the dock - constantly have to have that mechanism readjusted so it operated properly. :cry4`
I hope you have an improved version that's more reliable!!
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