Purpose and the capacity???
Any idea...
Is it connected to the main one under the dinette seating?
Hi Jim,
Page 37 of the Mk 1 Owner's Manual shows the aft tank to be 43 USG. On my boat, the aft tank and the stbd tank are connected via a valve manifold allowing me to select either the aft, stbd, both or neither to feed the fresh water pump. The valves are also shown on the diagram on P37. My valves are accessed via the fold down cover that I have underneath the cutlery drawers between the sink and the stove. I never select "both" but draw from either the aft or stbd tank one at a time. Hope this helps. As with many things on our boats, yours (or mine) may have been modified by a PO.
Thanks Dave!
I've had no idea since I do not have an owner's manual nor I checked one on the web yet.
If the aft one is 43 Gal. do you know what is the capacity for the one under the dinette settee?
BTW Happy New Year!
28 USG for the stbd tank. We have lots of fresh water aboard when the tanks are full. I tend to leave my aft tank empty when I make the 60nm journey across Georgian Bay and top up the tank when I get there.
Happy NY to you too.
Jim- perhaps you weren't aware that the 1987 MK I owners manual is on "our" website...
Here you go.
http://www.c34.org/manuals/1988/1988-C34-Owners.pdf
Quote from: Noah on December 31, 2016, 10:49:02 PM
Jim- perhaps you weren't aware that the 1987 MK I owners manual is on "our" website...
Here you go.
http://www.c34.org/manuals/1988/1988-C34-Owners.pdf
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Quote from: Capt.Jim on January 01, 2017, 11:56:06 AM
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Jim,
We made this a sticky topic so new folks would read it:
A Quick Start Guide -- a.k.a. Too Much Information on this Websitehttp://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,5260.0.html (http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,5260.0.html)
Hope you can find some time to wander around the 'site.
Think of it as a good winter boat project. :D :D :D
BACKGROUND:
I have a 1986 which was supplied with two water tanks, 1 under the V berth & 1 under the setee stbd side. There was also a water bladder under the aft berth which I removed.
QUESTION:
Has anyone ever considered or attempted to add an aft water tank to a boat that does NOT have a removable aft bulkhead in the aft cabin?
Ed : I don't believe so. I think it would be too much work to make your aft stationary panel into a removable panel.
I've only heard of owners that have added a small (10/15 gal?) bladder tank in the aft lazerette.
A thought
Ron,
I agree, my concern is the support required for the shelf the 43 gal tank sits on. At 8 lbs per gallon that is a lot of weight & I have not been able to find any pics of what it looks like. I did find some pics of a hard tank installed under the aft berth but have not been able to get a Ronco tank that looks like it would fit.
It is a molded in, gelcoated shelf that is part of the hull liner:
http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8674.msg61621.html#msg61621
Does anyone have a better picture of the shelf that supports the aft water tank? The picture in the link provided shows the teak panel removed and aft water tank with some of the shelf but it is not clear how it connects to the hull as described.
Quote from: Ekutney on January 08, 2017, 04:15:29 PM
Does anyone have a better picture of the shelf that supports the aft water tank? The picture in the link provided shows the teak panel removed and aft water tank with some of the shelf but it is not clear how it connects to the hull as described.
I hope that helps....BTW. If I were to make new aft tank I would make "V" shape bottom of it.
Gregory,
Thanks much. I agree with Ron's previous suggestion; it is an involved task to make the aft bulkhead removable & would require some extensive work to put in a shelf for a rear water tank. I will most likely end up putting a 20 gal water bladder under the aft berth.
Hi,
If you go with a tank under the bert.
Maybe something to look at, is make a mokup using cardboard to see if you can put in the finish tank in place.
Once done take final measure and send a sketch to RONCO.
They can make one if they don't already have someting close to your need.
ED- what is in the area behind your permanent aft bulkhead? Is it just "empty wasted space"? How do access it now, through the helm seat/lasarette? Maybe you could make a door through the bulkhead, instead of a removeable bulkhead and use that area for storage or a bladder tank? Just spitballing here.
Noah,
I have been thinking along exactly the same lines as your "spitballing". I have been deep in the lazerette & there is lots of wasted space there, used for nothing. I think building a shelf for a water tank is a more involved modification than I want to do but putting in a door in the aft berth to access some of that space for storage makes good sense, I need to wait until the weather warms up before I can crawl back in there. I've also thought of a water bladder both in the same area or under the aft berth.
There was a 55 gal bladder under the aft berth when I bought it but it was really old & had all kinds of "stuff" in it when I emptied it. The bladder was too big, in my opinion, because getting to the mounting blocks at the corners back aft was very tight & it almost covered the shaft log. In fact two of the starboard wood blocks it was attached to had come loose from the hull.
I need to think more about my options but the idea of a door to access the area is a good one, just need to think about the structural impact of cutting a hole in the aft bulkhead. I have also been thinking of other areas where a small door could provide easier access to current storage space.
Whatever I decide or contemplate will be shared here before the first hole is cut, I like/appreciate the vast experience here.
Ed,
I remember your issues about your bladder tank. I am aware of a few C34 skippers who had one, and I'll search in my own archives for one I called "Beckie's Bladder" and let you know.
There are no structural issues putting a hole in that aft wooden "wall" because it is only cosmetic. One of our skippers from San Francisco took his boat to Mexico and emptied the entire aft cabin, including that aft wall and the one to the fuel tank, and made it a storage/work room.
Stu,
The art cabin bulkhead is not teak on my boat, it is fiberglass. I need to search for teak doors & explore potential alternatives. I really don't understand why all the open space was wasted when storage space is such a premium. I like the idea of hanging a door to allow use as storage, just need to build some type of cavity so things don't bounce around & end up doing damage to anything.
It might be a potential location for a bladder but that is a good amount of weight that would require a sturdy mechanical structure to prevent it from doing damage in rough seas.
I really need to think about options before I do anything.
Ed,
Sorry, I forgot about your glass there, it's been awhile since your posts about that.
FWIW here are pictures of that boat I mentioned. Couldn't find the bladder pictures yet.
I forget if I ever suggested this: call Gerry Douglas and ask him.
Stu,
Thank you for the pictures.
I never thought of actually calling Gerry, I understand he is very approachable. I am located near Annapolis & have been told by many he sometimes attends the Annapolis Boat Show, I stopped by the Catalina area during the last show & was very disappointed in the lack of engagement with any of the people. I just assume I hit them on a bad day, no worries.
Quote from: Stu Jackson on January 09, 2017, 03:49:27 PM
I am aware of a few C34 skippers who had one, and I'll search in my own archives for one I called "Beckie's Bladder" and let you know.t cabin, including that aft wall and the one to the fuel tank, and made it a storage/work room.
Ed,
Found it:
That is exactly the same water bladder I removed. I still have it & was wondering if it could still be used because it doesn't leak & I could clean it out. It's just that it is 30 yrs old & bigger than I want. Thoughts?
After all, it did hold up for 30 yrs already... But
Lots of fresh water "bladder" tank solutions available out there; including the brand you have--from Go2Marine--as well as those made by Vetus, Plastimo, etc. are available from a variety of vendors.