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KWKloeber

Quote from: Schulcb on June 29, 2024, 06:58:44 AMConfirmed that it was a faulty gauge.  Bought a replacement from Catalina Direct which resolved the issue.

Thanks for all of the assistance.

Craig

Craig

YEAH! :clap
Just for posterity/future overheaters, how did you end up confirming it was a bad gauge?
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Allatsea

Hi Craig,
I'm most interested in how you confirmed it was the guage, as I am currently dealing with exactly the same symptoms as you.
regards,
Allan

KWKloeber

Quote from: Allatsea on July 08, 2024, 06:11:02 PMHi Craig,
I'm most interested in how you confirmed it was the guage, as I am currently dealing with exactly the same symptoms as you.
regards,
Allan

Allan

Have you gone thru the Teleflex troubleshooting guide steps for the temp gauge?
What other troubleshooting steps have you done?
Twenty years from now you'll be more disappointed by the things you didn't do, than by the ones you did.
So throw off the bowlines.  Sail away from the safe harbor.  Catch the tradewinds in your sails.
Explore.  Dream.  Discover.   -Mark Twain

Schulcb

Hello All,

After replacing the temp sender, running a new length of wire from the sender to the gauge, and working through the teleflex trouble shooting guide, the gauge would still pin high.  The only other piece of the system it could be was the gauge, so I just bought one from Catalina Direct and Voila.
Craig S.
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Hull #1675, 2004 mk2, M35bc, Tall Rig
Vancouver, BC

Allatsea

Hi Craig,
Although I have an extensive background in electronics, I was unable to determine the exact cause of the problem with the guage. Suffice to say, the symptoms were consistent with an intermittent short circuit to ground of the sensor coil winding within the guage.
The problem was resolved by simply replacing the guage.

KWKloeber

Quote from: Allatsea on August 14, 2024, 06:23:34 PMHi Craig,
Although I have an extensive background in electronics, I was unable to determine the exact cause of the problem with the guage. Suffice to say, the symptoms were consistent with an intermittent short circuit to ground of the sensor coil winding within the guage.
The problem was resolved by simply replacing the gauge.


When troubleshooting - if the first, easy, obvious approach doesn't zero in on a cause then I try to eliminate as many variables as possible, without changing anything in the system (such as replacing parts.) 

In this instance w/ a temp gauge, that's why I suggested removing the temp gauge sender and bringing it up to the panel. 

With a multimeter one can estimate what the gauge should read at ambient temp by the sender impedance, and even vary that with a pot of hot and cool water.  That way possibly high resistance to ground in the TSTat cap, a bad harness sender wire, a bad engine ground, using grounds with potentially (ugh) different potentials are eliminated.  Eazy peazy with sets of test clips like these:
https://www.harborfreight.com/36-inch-low-voltage-test-leads-66712.html

-ken

       
Twenty years from now you'll be more disappointed by the things you didn't do, than by the ones you did.
So throw off the bowlines.  Sail away from the safe harbor.  Catch the tradewinds in your sails.
Explore.  Dream.  Discover.   -Mark Twain