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Mark Sutherland

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New England Sta-Set Lines Slipping In Winch Crowns
« on: November 12, 2017, 12:54:06 PM »

I recently replaced 3 lines (Outhaul, Furling and Topping Lift) with New England Sta-Set, and they are all slipping in my winch crowns.  They seem to have a very slick feel to them.  Is there a way to "rough up" these lines without damaging them? 
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Re: New England Sta-Set Lines Slipping In Winch Crowns
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2017, 01:15:53 PM »

Mark : Sta-Set lines are low stretch.  Why are you using the outhaul??, furler and topping lift?? lines in a winch???

I had a small #16 Lemar Oceans (spring loaded self tailor keeper) winch I used for the furler line, but most of the time I secured the furling line in a cleat.  The winch was only used in very high winds!

A few thoughts
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Re: New England Sta-Set Lines Slipping In Winch Crowns
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 10:08:05 AM »

Anyone have any thoughts on how to get rid of the "slickness" on these new lines?  Thanks.
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Re: New England Sta-Set Lines Slipping In Winch Crowns
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 10:09:20 AM »

I don't have the winch spec's in front of me and you didn't say what diameter you are using.
Are you sure the winch is designed for those smaller lines?
I switched out my halyards to Samson XLS which is on the slippery side.  I might have to put an extra wrap on but the winches hold fine.
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Re: New England Sta-Set Lines Slipping In Winch Crowns
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 10:51:17 AM »

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Anyone have any thoughts on how to get rid of the "slickness" on these new lines?

Have you tried washing them.  I think a soaking in a bucket with dish washing liquid then a lot of rinsing may help. 
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Re: New England Sta-Set Lines Slipping In Winch Crowns
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 11:54:04 AM »

Hi Dave. The new lines are the exact same size as the previous lines.
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Re: New England Sta-Set Lines Slipping In Winch Crowns
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 02:01:58 PM »

Mark, Jim's right, just wash 'em.  I stuck mine in pillowcase and threw them in the washing machine.  Don't do too many at once, it unbalances the washer!!! :D :D :D

I only WISH I had new lines to play with.   :clap :cry4` :clap
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Re: New England Sta-Set Lines Slipping In Winch Crowns
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2017, 02:38:01 PM »

Mark : If you are going to wash them go to a landra - mat.  They have heavy duty machines - I've done 200ft of anchor line!!
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Re: New England Sta-Set Lines Slipping In Winch Crowns
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2017, 03:11:58 PM »

I recently replaced 3 lines (Outhaul, Furling and Topping Lift) with New England Sta-Set, and they are all slipping in my winch crowns.  They seem to have a very slick feel to them.  Is there a way to "rough up" these lines without damaging them?
I had similar issue with the main halyard and the winch next to the companionway hatch.  Not sure what size, maybe lewmar 24.  I just did an extra wrap around the drum.  4 wraps instead of 3.
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Re: New England Sta-Set Lines Slipping In Winch Crowns
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2017, 09:08:47 AM »

Hi Dave. The new lines are the exact same size as the previous lines.

Is this a smaller self tailing cabin top winch or your main winches?
The owners manual calls for 5/16" topping lift and 7/16" jib sheet. Not sure about outhaul. Many have moved up a size on the sheets to help them grab better as well so the smaller control lines may be small for the winch.

Without knowing the winch size and line sizes, it's hard to know.  Lewmar 46's are supposedly good down to 5/16 but I'm sure there has been a bit of wear...
Certainly slick lines will exacerbate things.
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